<<< o >>>yes, I'm going to eat you 24 comments + add yours
chromasia.com

I took this one ages ago, when John and I went down to the Europe Photobloggers meetup in London, and didn't put it up at the time as I thought she might not be overly flattered. But, having looked at it on numerous occassions, I decided that it captured this woman's marvellously sparky character quite perfectly so decided to post it now.

And in case you're wondering about the lighting: it's flash lit, but from below; i.e. the flash was on an off-camera cord, probably at about the height of my waist.

captured
camera
lens
aperture
shutter speed
shooting mode
exposure bias
metering mode
ISO
flash
image quality
RAW converter
cropped?
10.10pm on 24/9/05
Canon 20D
EF 50mm f/1.8 mk II
f/2.8
1/10
aperture priority
+0.0
evaluative
400
580EX
RAW
C1 Pro
no
 
3x2 + people [portraiture]
comment by Anthony at 08:45 PM (GMT) on 10 December, 2005

Could I ask what method you use to desaturate your images from colour to black and white, because I have always been impressed by the range of grey tones you manage to achieve
antmanbee

comment by Rick at 08:48 PM (GMT) on 10 December, 2005

This may have already been answered, I try to read most of the comments everyday, but may have missed this one...

A lot of peoplpe ask how specifics on how you edit a photo... My question not so specific but more a "how long did that take?" I'm sure the answer is "it depends", but maybe you could give some insight on how long this one and the last couple took as points of reference. The obvious follow-up is how long have you been using Photoshop? Self taught?

I really like the contrast and details of the skin in todays...

comment by djn1 at 09:00 PM (GMT) on 10 December, 2005

Anthony: I normally use the Channel Mixer as it allows you to balance the tones as you see fit. That said, the range of tones is more to do with making sure the original is correctly exposed (and definitely not over-exposed) and adjusting the range with the Curves tool.

Rick: you're quite right, it depends. This shot took me about twenty minutes, some take only a few minutes, and some take several hours. As for using Photoshop: I'm not sure how long I've been using it - four years, maybe - and I'm self-taught. What I have found useful is Martin Evening's book, Adobe Photoshop CS for Photographers and I often scan through various digital photography magazines looking for techniques that I've not tried before.

comment by owen at 09:22 PM (GMT) on 10 December, 2005

Not the most flattering light for a traditional portait - but it does show all her features and that expression exceptionally well. Apart from the smile this could be my old headmistress!

comment by djn1 at 09:29 PM (GMT) on 10 December, 2005

owen: again, this isn't flattering, but there is something school ma'am-ish about this shot ;-)

comment by Mark at 10:12 PM (GMT) on 10 December, 2005

Personally I don't think portraits always have to be 'flattering' to be honest. This has a quirkiness that I like while, of course, the whole processing side of it is of the usual wonderful quality that I associate with your stuff.

It actually reminds me of the 'The Witches' ... perhaps helped by the fact that I took my kids to watch The Twits at the theatre this afternoon. Anyway...like I say, a quirky portrait and one that I like.

While you're kindly answering technical questions though Dave could I ask how you manage to resize all your stuff to the same dimensions? Am I right that you do manage to do that? Mine all seem to be different sizes, with or without cropping. It's no doubt a basic technique but one that I'm - as yet - very amateur at.

comment by Chris at 12:29 AM (GMT) on 11 December, 2005

I am blown away! Everything about the photo works!

comment by djn1 at 12:41 AM (GMT) on 11 December, 2005

Mark: I use Web Presenter Pro, a photoshop plugin. It allows you to specify a final size and incrementally reduces the image to those dimensions. It also allows you to automatically sharpen the end result.

comment by Kevin at 02:52 AM (GMT) on 11 December, 2005

All I can think when I look at it is:
How can you have any pudding if you don't eat your meat?

comment by Lawrence at 03:12 AM (GMT) on 11 December, 2005

Kevin...That was PERFECT!

comment by Lee at 04:40 AM (GMT) on 11 December, 2005

This is great! I just bought a 50mm 1.8 and it's fantastic to see the potential! hmmm....this brings up a good point about posting EXIF data and why I should include it with my picture =)

comment by ninu at 02:46 PM (GMT) on 11 December, 2005

DJN,
After months of viewing your site, I know why I keep coming back - the simplicity and style of this site. Yes you can have flash, and all this shiz niz integrated into a site.... but when it comes right down to it... this site plain works best. The interactive javascript with your css tags in the background give just the right interaction for the viewer's experience. Nice job on that fyi. **Still hoping to be the first poster someday on this site... :-)

~Cheers

comment by Rock at 03:40 PM (GMT) on 11 December, 2005

I agree that portraits do not need to be flatteing. Portraits can be used to bring out the soul, heart, intensity, integrity, hardness of one's life and any number of other things about us. However, the portraits that we take should never portray a subject in any kind of negative way without their explicit consent.

I obviously have no knowledge of this woman and how she feels about this image, but from reading your comments I don't think that she has seen this portrait. It would be very interesting to hear her thoughts about it.

comment by Peter 'Eyore' Hayden at 04:22 PM (GMT) on 11 December, 2005

I have a dream.

And I really think this photo encapsulates it.

Yes.

A dream.

comment by djn1 at 04:49 PM (GMT) on 11 December, 2005

Thanks everyone.

ninu: I think a lot of chromasia's visitors monitor my RSS feed so get notified when I put something new up ;-)

Rock: I don't know what she'd make of it. I would hope that she felt that it captured some of her energy and that she was pleased with it, but I don't know.

comment by m at 09:45 PM (GMT) on 11 December, 2005

I'd say that whilst her picture is not overly flattering its higly energetic and she looks very charasmatic. Portrait meets action shot!

comment by corey koberg at 10:20 PM (GMT) on 11 December, 2005

Looks like you used a lot of the blue channel in the channel mixer?

comment by tobias at 10:26 PM (GMT) on 11 December, 2005

Great light and very theatrical. The forehead lines are quite something.

comment by r e s o l u t i o n at 10:57 PM (GMT) on 11 December, 2005

Not overly flattered - I am sure she will think it downright cruel! Please some filtering in the transition to monochrome, and ouch turn done the sharpness for goodness sake! Other than that I love your pictures - keep up the brilliant work!

comment by djn1 at 10:12 AM (GMT) on 12 December, 2005

corey: I used the green channel as she was lit by a combination of tungsten and green light.

comment by Navin Harish at 11:55 AM (GMT) on 12 December, 2005

Nice picture. I agree that she may not be entirely please to see this pisture but I must say that it is quite a great shot and you have managed to capture the expression and the details quite nicely. Great use of Flash as well.

comment by RustyJ at 07:10 PM (GMT) on 12 December, 2005

I would most definitely get my library books back on time!! The lighting makes it as it reminds me of holding a flashlight under your chin when you're trying to scare people at night. Doesn't everybody do that?? This is a great photo. She could be hired for a spot in the Harry Potter series.
Good one djn1.

comment by neowenyang at 01:59 PM (GMT) on 13 December, 2005

agreed! it's a playful shot... i think the woman has amazing expressions

comment by Adriana at 03:21 AM (GMT) on 14 December, 2005

For some reason it reminds me to a Disneyland atraction, maybe to one of those robots or something. Puting that aside, she really looks sparky :)