This is the first of two portraits of these two people and I can't decide which I prefer. I like the detail in this one, but the two characters are much stronger in tomorrow's shot (particularly the guy in the centre who you can barely see in this one). As always, let me know what you think.
As for the title: I'm afraid that I couldn't think of anything original for this one (or tomorrow's) so have continued the sequence from a shot I posted in 2004.
Oh, and in case you haven't seen any of my other shots like this one, this is a reflection in a train window.
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comment by Monika at 07:04 PM (GMT) on 25 January, 2006
WOW
David, this is a gorgeous shot
comment byNJP3 at 07:08 PM (GMT) on 25 January, 2006
oh, at first i thought it was a montage with the faces superimposed lol. After reading the description though, I like it.
comment byKeith at 07:13 PM (GMT) on 25 January, 2006
The combination of the person who could be in period dress and the old rail structure make it look like something from Around the world in 80 days for example. It looks like a memory sequence from a film or a flashback. Great effect look forward to comparing the next one. I have found reflection shots to be rather addictive.
comment byLee at 07:24 PM (GMT) on 25 January, 2006
This is cool, but its kinda creepy...
comment byKlaas at 07:38 PM (GMT) on 25 January, 2006
Oops, it's terrible. The picture from 2004 looks quite nice. Must be because in this case the people look straight into the camera, which makes it too perfect, which makes it look like you slapped to pictures together in photoshop, which makes it tacky.
comment bydave at 07:49 PM (GMT) on 25 January, 2006
it's nice with a black background
comment byRobert #2 at 07:50 PM (GMT) on 25 January, 2006
I like it, but as you mentioned, the center guy is too faint-- it's almost like you didn't intend for him to be in the photo. I'm looking forward to seeing the one where he's better defined.
comment bybuda at 07:56 PM (GMT) on 25 January, 2006
Just to say you got a great pic here.
I find it very Literary!
Hey! Congrats. on your nomination!
comment byJon at 08:27 PM (GMT) on 25 January, 2006
My initial impression is of unease. The left and right side of the picture seem to be competing against each other for importance, the central face is a nice touch maybe it could do with being a little stronger.
comment byMats at 08:33 PM (GMT) on 25 January, 2006
It looks a bit like a scene from a movie. Very nice.
comment by John Washington at 08:48 PM (GMT) on 25 January, 2006
Another very solid photo Dave. That expression is almost revealing.
comment bynuno f at 09:13 PM (GMT) on 25 January, 2006
The first photo that I saw in Chromasia (long time ago), was a shot that you've take also in a train. Since then, everytime I see a similar photo from you, I know I'm in the right place. : )
comment byRichard at 09:16 PM (GMT) on 25 January, 2006
Nice photo Davd. The latice steel work is a real bonus. I like the fact that you cant see the middle potrait, especially if its part of a series where you can in the next. Sometimes photos need to be seen in pairs, trio's etc.
comment byJD at 09:36 PM (GMT) on 25 January, 2006
I have to admin that I prefer the 2004 "between destinations" .
Its something to do with the focal point being the people and the clarity of the face in this that doesn't work for me.
However I do like you "transport reflection shots" I think their mood and subjects pretty much sum up everythin you could think about for train journeys!
Just wondering if you've considered creating a category specific to these themed images???
comment byPatrick at 09:43 PM (GMT) on 25 January, 2006
I'm not a big fan of this shot - it's right in the middle and I feel it needs to go one way or the other. Either more about the outside or more about the faces - it's too ghostly. I'll be interested to see tomorrow's shot and see if I still hold this opinion.
comment bymark at 09:46 PM (GMT) on 25 January, 2006
John Washington - how the hell is it revealing? The guy's got a straight face, looking out of the window on what's no doubt another boring train journey. People are always thinking things to themselves, so by that rationale EVERY expression is revealing! (and Dave...yes, I have had some wine ;-)...)
comment bygaryx at 10:08 PM (GMT) on 25 January, 2006
It works really well.
comment bydjn1 at 10:11 PM (GMT) on 25 January, 2006
Lee: yes, it is a bit creepy.
Klaas: what are you trying to say? If you don't like it, just say so ;-)
Robert #2: personally, I like the fact that the guy in the middle is very faint, but I did suspect that some of you might have preferred him to have been a little more obvious.
Jon: good. I didn't intend for this to be a comfortable image.
JD: yes, I'll probably sort out a category for them - just haven't got around to it.
mark: compared to tomorrow's shot, the guy on the right looks positively animated in this one, but I take your point. As for the wine: good for you; so have I.
comment byfrisky? at 11:11 PM (GMT) on 25 January, 2006
wonderful dave... this is just amazing work.
comment byRoy at 11:12 PM (GMT) on 25 January, 2006
There's potential for an interesting theme based on a sequence of pictures like this, the 2004 example and April 8 2005 - fixed photographer, moving landscape, fixed people. In fact, another sequence also appears to be evolving from images like Jan 16, 22, 24 - moving photographer, fixed landscape, moving people. Viewed as a sequence they seem to have more potency than each image individually.
comment by Geoff at 11:21 PM (GMT) on 25 January, 2006
Nice work Dave. I love the crop ratio, and the positioning of the main subject. I have only one query. Why not colour?
comment bydjn1 at 11:29 PM (GMT) on 25 January, 2006
Roy: yes, I need to think about ways of presenting some of my work as sequences rather than single images in and amongst everything else.
Geoff: for some reason it's rare that colour shots of train window reflections work, at least in my opinion. More often than not the colours seem to clash, the shots don't balance, and the mood of the image gets lost in and amongst the mess of the colour of the train seats, or the people's clothes, or the often drab backgrounds.
comment by LizK at 12:47 AM (GMT) on 26 January, 2006
For some reason, I really like this shot! I usually enjoy your work, but this is one I find particularly appealing. I agree with Robert #2, though; perhaps it will look better with the person in the middle more visible.
comment bydarragh at 12:58 AM (GMT) on 26 January, 2006
both 'between destinations' shots i like lots. i think the central, barely visible person works well.. was thinking it could've been you. seems like there could almost me another person on the left making a ghostly transparency transition across the photo.
comment bynoushin at 01:54 AM (GMT) on 26 January, 2006
I love this one big time. This is one of my favorites of your recent shots.
comment byJohn at 02:44 AM (GMT) on 26 January, 2006
For a titel, I was going to sugggest "Strangers on a Train," but I thinnk that one might be taken.
comment byZequie at 03:10 AM (GMT) on 26 January, 2006
Hey!! I can see two persons, it's kinda creepy, but anyway, it's looks very well. Well done David.
I'll come back tomorrow, for see your new shot.
See you.
comment bydan culberson at 04:29 AM (GMT) on 26 January, 2006
Favorite part of this shot is the powerlines. Weird, I know.
djn, do you tell or ask these people about taking their photographs? I'm not saying you should or should not, just curious if they know they are appering on your photoblog.
comment byMike at 07:06 AM (GMT) on 26 January, 2006
Neat. I like the wide format, too...
comment byDan at 08:44 AM (GMT) on 26 January, 2006
Great shot, as soon as I saw it it reminded me of your previous offerings like this.. Great crop and positioning of the strongest face. Nicely processed too. I like it.
comment bydjn1 at 09:15 AM (GMT) on 26 January, 2006
dan: with these shots, no, I don't tell or ask them so they're probably unaware that they're appearing here.
comment bygoon at 09:49 AM (GMT) on 26 January, 2006
funny thing you notice the center character almost at first sight... on the thumbnail! :)
maybe it's because when smaller, the motives of the background don't attract the eye as much as on the full sized picture...
oh, and one question that was on my mind for a long time: how do you take your pictures in confined spaces without being noticed by the people you take?
comment byArtur Marques at 10:15 AM (GMT) on 26 January, 2006
This is a very good shot... excelent...
comment byPlasticTV at 10:32 AM (GMT) on 26 January, 2006
The guy looks Chinese, so the first idea that sprang to mind is a documentary on the Californian gold rush, if you get my drift. The picture itself has a very dreamy, other-worldly impression, and i like it a lot. Looking fwd to tomorrow's!
comment by Ellie at 12:58 PM (GMT) on 26 January, 2006
i absolutely love it! that all i can say really, just the WOW factor!! its so strangely powerful, and i really cant figure why.
comment byFellow Eskimo at 01:03 PM (GMT) on 26 January, 2006
I really like this shot...its almost like one of those ghost shots I get if I run in front of the camera during a long exposure...except not. Nice reflections, I like how serious the guy on the right looks.
comment byjxiong at 04:06 PM (GMT) on 26 January, 2006
wonderful shot.. very moody and seems to tell a story.. wonderful idea to crop it in a paranoma too! ;p
comment byDave at 04:32 PM (GMT) on 26 January, 2006
Awesome expression, and there's just something about the sharpness and quality of the face as opposed to the background. The background just draws you into the face. It will be interesting to see the shot with the other face more prominent...it could work, it could not.
comment by Josh at 04:46 PM (GMT) on 26 January, 2006
Like an earlier post above, my first experience with Chromasia were train/reflection shots. I love them... great job.
comment byCarrie at 05:18 PM (GMT) on 26 January, 2006
I love this shot. It's very dramatic. Lots going on and really makes me think.
comment bydjn1 at 06:22 PM (GMT) on 26 January, 2006
Thanks everyone. I'll be interested to hear how you think this compares to my next shot.
comment bykate at 03:52 AM (GMT) on 27 January, 2006
amazing photo! i like this one best - her face is so moving! great idea!
comment byStephane Amaimo at 12:47 PM (GMT) on 3 March, 2006
This is the first of two portraits of these two people and I can't decide which I prefer. I like the detail in this one, but the two characters are much stronger in tomorrow's shot (particularly the guy in the centre who you can barely see in this one). As always, let me know what you think.
As for the title: I'm afraid that I couldn't think of anything original for this one (or tomorrow's) so have continued the sequence from a shot I posted in 2004.
Oh, and in case you haven't seen any of my other shots like this one, this is a reflection in a train window.
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lens
focal length
aperture
shutter speed
shooting mode
exposure bias
metering mode
ISO
flash
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cropped?
Canon 20D
EF 17-40 f/4L USM
40mm (64mm equiv.)
f/4.0
1/125
aperture priority
-1/3
evaluative
100
no
RAW
C1 Pro
2x1
WOW
David, this is a gorgeous shot
oh, at first i thought it was a montage with the faces superimposed lol. After reading the description though, I like it.
The combination of the person who could be in period dress and the old rail structure make it look like something from Around the world in 80 days for example. It looks like a memory sequence from a film or a flashback. Great effect look forward to comparing the next one. I have found reflection shots to be rather addictive.
This is cool, but its kinda creepy...
Oops, it's terrible. The picture from 2004 looks quite nice. Must be because in this case the people look straight into the camera, which makes it too perfect, which makes it look like you slapped to pictures together in photoshop, which makes it tacky.
it's nice with a black background
I like it, but as you mentioned, the center guy is too faint-- it's almost like you didn't intend for him to be in the photo. I'm looking forward to seeing the one where he's better defined.
Just to say you got a great pic here.
I find it very Literary!
Hey! Congrats. on your nomination!
My initial impression is of unease. The left and right side of the picture seem to be competing against each other for importance, the central face is a nice touch maybe it could do with being a little stronger.
It looks a bit like a scene from a movie. Very nice.
Another very solid photo Dave. That expression is almost revealing.
The first photo that I saw in Chromasia (long time ago), was a shot that you've take also in a train. Since then, everytime I see a similar photo from you, I know I'm in the right place. : )
Nice photo Davd. The latice steel work is a real bonus. I like the fact that you cant see the middle potrait, especially if its part of a series where you can in the next. Sometimes photos need to be seen in pairs, trio's etc.
I have to admin that I prefer the 2004 "between destinations" .
Its something to do with the focal point being the people and the clarity of the face in this that doesn't work for me.
However I do like you "transport reflection shots" I think their mood and subjects pretty much sum up everythin you could think about for train journeys!
Just wondering if you've considered creating a category specific to these themed images???
I'm not a big fan of this shot - it's right in the middle and I feel it needs to go one way or the other. Either more about the outside or more about the faces - it's too ghostly. I'll be interested to see tomorrow's shot and see if I still hold this opinion.
John Washington - how the hell is it revealing? The guy's got a straight face, looking out of the window on what's no doubt another boring train journey. People are always thinking things to themselves, so by that rationale EVERY expression is revealing! (and Dave...yes, I have had some wine ;-)...)
It works really well.
Lee: yes, it is a bit creepy.
Klaas: what are you trying to say? If you don't like it, just say so ;-)
Robert #2: personally, I like the fact that the guy in the middle is very faint, but I did suspect that some of you might have preferred him to have been a little more obvious.
Jon: good. I didn't intend for this to be a comfortable image.
JD: yes, I'll probably sort out a category for them - just haven't got around to it.
mark: compared to tomorrow's shot, the guy on the right looks positively animated in this one, but I take your point. As for the wine: good for you; so have I.
wonderful dave... this is just amazing work.
There's potential for an interesting theme based on a sequence of pictures like this, the 2004 example and April 8 2005 - fixed photographer, moving landscape, fixed people. In fact, another sequence also appears to be evolving from images like Jan 16, 22, 24 - moving photographer, fixed landscape, moving people. Viewed as a sequence they seem to have more potency than each image individually.
Nice work Dave. I love the crop ratio, and the positioning of the main subject. I have only one query. Why not colour?
Roy: yes, I need to think about ways of presenting some of my work as sequences rather than single images in and amongst everything else.
Geoff: for some reason it's rare that colour shots of train window reflections work, at least in my opinion. More often than not the colours seem to clash, the shots don't balance, and the mood of the image gets lost in and amongst the mess of the colour of the train seats, or the people's clothes, or the often drab backgrounds.
For some reason, I really like this shot! I usually enjoy your work, but this is one I find particularly appealing. I agree with Robert #2, though; perhaps it will look better with the person in the middle more visible.
both 'between destinations' shots i like lots. i think the central, barely visible person works well.. was thinking it could've been you. seems like there could almost me another person on the left making a ghostly transparency transition across the photo.
I love this one big time. This is one of my favorites of your recent shots.
For a titel, I was going to sugggest "Strangers on a Train," but I thinnk that one might be taken.
Hey!! I can see two persons, it's kinda creepy, but anyway, it's looks very well. Well done David.
I'll come back tomorrow, for see your new shot.
See you.
Favorite part of this shot is the powerlines. Weird, I know.
djn, do you tell or ask these people about taking their photographs? I'm not saying you should or should not, just curious if they know they are appering on your photoblog.
Neat. I like the wide format, too...
Great shot, as soon as I saw it it reminded me of your previous offerings like this.. Great crop and positioning of the strongest face. Nicely processed too. I like it.
dan: with these shots, no, I don't tell or ask them so they're probably unaware that they're appearing here.
funny thing you notice the center character almost at first sight... on the thumbnail! :)
maybe it's because when smaller, the motives of the background don't attract the eye as much as on the full sized picture...
oh, and one question that was on my mind for a long time: how do you take your pictures in confined spaces without being noticed by the people you take?
This is a very good shot... excelent...
The guy looks Chinese, so the first idea that sprang to mind is a documentary on the Californian gold rush, if you get my drift. The picture itself has a very dreamy, other-worldly impression, and i like it a lot. Looking fwd to tomorrow's!
i absolutely love it! that all i can say really, just the WOW factor!! its so strangely powerful, and i really cant figure why.
I really like this shot...its almost like one of those ghost shots I get if I run in front of the camera during a long exposure...except not. Nice reflections, I like how serious the guy on the right looks.
wonderful shot.. very moody and seems to tell a story.. wonderful idea to crop it in a paranoma too! ;p
Awesome expression, and there's just something about the sharpness and quality of the face as opposed to the background. The background just draws you into the face. It will be interesting to see the shot with the other face more prominent...it could work, it could not.
Like an earlier post above, my first experience with Chromasia were train/reflection shots. I love them... great job.
I love this shot. It's very dramatic. Lots going on and really makes me think.
Thanks everyone. I'll be interested to hear how you think this compares to my next shot.
amazing photo! i like this one best - her face is so moving! great idea!
I do prefer this one. so inspirationnal...