First: thanks for all the great comments on my last two shots, they're much appreciated.
As for today's shot: it's another re-examination of something I took a while ago and decided not to put up, though in this case the manipulation is a little different. Rather than explain what you're looking at it's probably easier to show you the (partly post-processed) original:
As you can probably work out from the original, this is a diptych, of sorts, but both images come from the same original: the image on the left is the leftmost two-thirds of the original, and the image on the right is the rightmost two-thirds, horizontally reversed. I guess my reasoning with this one is that I was trying to capture the vaguely enclosed, leading nowhere feeling of this alleyway, and I didn't think the original did this, nor was I particularly happy with the shot as a whole (a shadowy figure would probably have helped). This version, on the other hand (for me at least), accentuates the dead-end feel of this location and does a much better job of getting the mood of the scene across.
Anyway, it remains to be seen as to whether you think it's effective (and I bet that some of you will prefer the original), but it's something that I may well use more intentionally in the future. And no, it's not as good as the previous two shots, but I did think it was sufficiently interesting to put up.
And now it's probably about time that I shot some new material rather than trawling through the stuff I've previously rejected ;-)
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comment byMicki at 07:14 PM (GMT) on 13 February, 2006
I do "get" the feeling you were going for with this image. I can imagine walking in a circle with no way out. Very good. Having said that, I LOVE the original. It stands on its own.
Great work, as usual!
comment by Nate Tate at 07:16 PM (GMT) on 13 February, 2006
This is an interesting attempt at something new... The black line on the edge of the brick wall sort of bothers me though. It is interesting, an attempt to paint a new image with your photographs.
comment bydjn1 at 07:17 PM (GMT) on 13 February, 2006
Micki: thanks. As for the original: I guess my problem with it was that it felt too 'open', when what I was trying to convey was something a bit more enclosed. What I didn't mention in my description is that this alley is a dead-end, closed off by a gate, beyond which some building work is in progress, and I was trying to show something of the mood I was in while I was there.
comment bydjn1 at 07:19 PM (GMT) on 13 February, 2006
Nate: yep, in some ways the black line is unfortunate – it looks like a clumsy bit of post-processing – but it's actually a part of the scene; i.e. a black line painted down the corner of the wall.
comment byMatt Simpson at 07:35 PM (GMT) on 13 February, 2006
I don't dislike this so much as don't understand why you didn't like the original. I think the original captures what you were talking about pretty well.
Also, when looking at this one it's a bit hard to tell what it is you are looking at first. Maybe I'm alone on this, but a clearer divide between the two halves might help.
Of course that's just my opinion, I could be wrong.
comment byRobert at 07:47 PM (GMT) on 13 February, 2006
Interesting. I'm going the other way than Matt. I like the photo's inherent confusion. Without the description, the view has to decide what they're looking at it. At first glance, for example, thw white wall appeared to be an art installation that you could walk around.
Normally, the extra work might make people just say forget it, but the strong color and division between whte / red walls makes you want to stop and examine the image. Plus, a receding path makes your mind go "What's down that way?"
comment bycroz at 07:54 PM (GMT) on 13 February, 2006
original is much better..it works as it is distinguishable... This doesn't make sense to me and looks like a mistake...
comment byJide at 08:04 PM (GMT) on 13 February, 2006
I very much prefer the original. Not sure I am feeling this one.
comment by Sharla at 08:10 PM (GMT) on 13 February, 2006
Interesting. I first thought it was another of your loved reflections, but something bothered me about it. After reading your description and seeing the original, I realized that the "reflection" on the left did not follow the rules of perspective - the baseboard would be much lower in a true reflection.
You never said that was what you were doing so my impressions don't affect your presentation at all. I'm back where I started: it's interesting.
comment byBenjamin Riley at 08:11 PM (GMT) on 13 February, 2006
i am very confused by this picture. i just looks like two pictures spliced together in the middle with little coherence. i favor the original image more.
comment byRyanT at 08:18 PM (GMT) on 13 February, 2006
Well the concept IS really neat. If I had to choose it would be the original though. It just makes more visual sense to me.
comment byDave at 08:19 PM (GMT) on 13 February, 2006
David, great image yet again. One thing about most of your work is that it seems to have palpable three dimensional quality. Is there something that you do to an image toward the end of processing to give images that smooth rounded feel? I must say, I try to get there, but you have it pegged! For sale: Canon 20D reason: It doesn't take chromasia-like pics ;-)
comment byrobron at 08:24 PM (GMT) on 13 February, 2006
I agree, very interesting picture, the center jumps out at the viewer. It very much reminds me of the monolith from 2001: A Space Odyssey!
comment by Rob at 09:38 PM (GMT) on 13 February, 2006
"a shadowy figure would probably have helped" LOL
I would love to comment on this shot, but I am still laughing from your comment.
comment byA Visual Journal at 10:33 PM (GMT) on 13 February, 2006
I like the original better.
comment bydjn1 at 12:35 AM (GMT) on 14 February, 2006
Well, not a great success so far then ;-) One of the things I was thinking of when I put this together was David Hockney's Joiners, particularly one of the early ones, The Desk (from 1984). Clearly this shot is about 998 shots short of an image of that scale, but the general idea – the manipulation of space and perspective – was one of the things I had in mind. I suspect that this is something I'll return to at some point.
comment byAshish Sidapara at 01:12 AM (GMT) on 14 February, 2006
I prefer the original image too.
comment bykyle at 01:43 AM (GMT) on 14 February, 2006
Can't wait to see your VALENTINES day pic!
comment byKris at 01:50 AM (GMT) on 14 February, 2006
i guess the sharp line seperating the left part is kind of difficult to accept...if it could've merged more in to the image the way the right part of the alley mergers, it would look much more interesting...anyway i like this one, kind of out of ordinary...:-)
comment by John at 02:36 AM (GMT) on 14 February, 2006
It's really cool........... Kind of like waking up in the morning (far objects fuzzy and I'm trying to focus) and my son plants a Val Day Card within the only area I am able to focus.
Thanks for inspiring me to try something like this.
comment byAhamed at 08:29 AM (GMT) on 14 February, 2006
Even with the explanation my eye still is trying to figure it out (which is a good place to have your viewer as a photographer). Well done.
comment byantmanbee at 09:26 AM (GMT) on 14 February, 2006
Like the majority of your correspondence I prefer the original. I have to disagree with your own assessment, the two halves just seem to be fighting one another
comment byLee at 09:45 AM (GMT) on 14 February, 2006
The two halves are too disjointed and makes the middle wall look 2 dimensional. I think you could of took the original shot with a very wide lens to make the orange wall go on for miles. That way you would of got a much more realistic interpretation of your concept.
comment byRob at 11:09 AM (GMT) on 14 February, 2006
An improvement on the first shot I feel, and an interesting piece of image manipulation so to speak
comment byMário Ferreira at 02:13 PM (GMT) on 14 February, 2006
Hi David,
I continue seeing your photos, there are some oh them i dont like specialy; this is one of them, but all your work is very interesting.
Can i put you one question? Think you there is a great diference between process raw picd on Phase One or in Utilities of Canon? ( i work with a 20D like you, and i dont see any diference between the 2 processment.( Sorry for my bad english, please...)
comment byCarter Rose at 05:54 PM (GMT) on 14 February, 2006
Daivd,
I immediately thought of Hockney's work when I saw this post. I had a professor in school that does this kind of work but in triptics...I think youve done well with this one...I have been trying to attempt some composite shots as well. Nothing to Hockneys scale of course but along the lines of yours perhaps...anyway check it out when you get a chance.
comment byAsh @ Nighthawks at 05:55 PM (GMT) on 14 February, 2006
i like the original better...just because the picture is a little confusing
comment byEllie at 05:56 PM (GMT) on 14 February, 2006
It confuses me the more i look at it and think about it! V arty :-P i like it. At first i thought 'how has he got the sudden focus' till i read your comment about it and worked out what you'd done! Sooo impressive, i like :-)
comment bydjn1 at 08:35 PM (GMT) on 14 February, 2006
Thanks everyone, clearly this is an approach I need to think through in a bit more detail before using again.
comment by RustyJ at 06:15 PM (GMT) on 16 February, 2006
Both are great but the current one makes me think the wall is actually a door or way out. You just have to find the key. Pushing the right brick might do the trick. Maybe it's a tardis??
RustyJ
comment byEric Hancock at 02:36 AM (GMT) on 17 February, 2006
Excelent.
comment bygermain perez at 02:36 PM (GMT) on 21 February, 2006
i defninitely go for the spliced one. the original is just not enough, but what you did here is very intriguing and beautiful.
comment byLinus at 03:45 PM (GMT) on 21 February, 2006
First: thanks for all the great comments on my last two shots, they're much appreciated.
As for today's shot: it's another re-examination of something I took a while ago and decided not to put up, though in this case the manipulation is a little different. Rather than explain what you're looking at it's probably easier to show you the (partly post-processed) original:
.../archives/blind_alley.php
As you can probably work out from the original, this is a diptych, of sorts, but both images come from the same original: the image on the left is the leftmost two-thirds of the original, and the image on the right is the rightmost two-thirds, horizontally reversed. I guess my reasoning with this one is that I was trying to capture the vaguely enclosed, leading nowhere feeling of this alleyway, and I didn't think the original did this, nor was I particularly happy with the shot as a whole (a shadowy figure would probably have helped). This version, on the other hand (for me at least), accentuates the dead-end feel of this location and does a much better job of getting the mood of the scene across.
Anyway, it remains to be seen as to whether you think it's effective (and I bet that some of you will prefer the original), but it's something that I may well use more intentionally in the future. And no, it's not as good as the previous two shots, but I did think it was sufficiently interesting to put up.
And now it's probably about time that I shot some new material rather than trawling through the stuff I've previously rejected ;-)
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lens
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aperture
shutter speed
shooting mode
exposure bias
metering mode
ISO
flash
image quality
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94mm (150mm equiv.)
f/4.5
1/60
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I do "get" the feeling you were going for with this image. I can imagine walking in a circle with no way out. Very good. Having said that, I LOVE the original. It stands on its own.
Great work, as usual!
This is an interesting attempt at something new... The black line on the edge of the brick wall sort of bothers me though. It is interesting, an attempt to paint a new image with your photographs.
Micki: thanks. As for the original: I guess my problem with it was that it felt too 'open', when what I was trying to convey was something a bit more enclosed. What I didn't mention in my description is that this alley is a dead-end, closed off by a gate, beyond which some building work is in progress, and I was trying to show something of the mood I was in while I was there.
Nate: yep, in some ways the black line is unfortunate – it looks like a clumsy bit of post-processing – but it's actually a part of the scene; i.e. a black line painted down the corner of the wall.
I don't dislike this so much as don't understand why you didn't like the original. I think the original captures what you were talking about pretty well.
Also, when looking at this one it's a bit hard to tell what it is you are looking at first. Maybe I'm alone on this, but a clearer divide between the two halves might help.
Of course that's just my opinion, I could be wrong.
Interesting. I'm going the other way than Matt. I like the photo's inherent confusion. Without the description, the view has to decide what they're looking at it. At first glance, for example, thw white wall appeared to be an art installation that you could walk around.
Normally, the extra work might make people just say forget it, but the strong color and division between whte / red walls makes you want to stop and examine the image. Plus, a receding path makes your mind go "What's down that way?"
original is much better..it works as it is distinguishable... This doesn't make sense to me and looks like a mistake...
I very much prefer the original. Not sure I am feeling this one.
Interesting. I first thought it was another of your loved reflections, but something bothered me about it. After reading your description and seeing the original, I realized that the "reflection" on the left did not follow the rules of perspective - the baseboard would be much lower in a true reflection.
You never said that was what you were doing so my impressions don't affect your presentation at all. I'm back where I started: it's interesting.
i am very confused by this picture. i just looks like two pictures spliced together in the middle with little coherence. i favor the original image more.
Well the concept IS really neat. If I had to choose it would be the original though. It just makes more visual sense to me.
David, great image yet again. One thing about most of your work is that it seems to have palpable three dimensional quality. Is there something that you do to an image toward the end of processing to give images that smooth rounded feel? I must say, I try to get there, but you have it pegged! For sale: Canon 20D reason: It doesn't take chromasia-like pics ;-)
I agree, very interesting picture, the center jumps out at the viewer. It very much reminds me of the monolith from 2001: A Space Odyssey!
"a shadowy figure would probably have helped" LOL
I would love to comment on this shot, but I am still laughing from your comment.
I like the original better.
Well, not a great success so far then ;-) One of the things I was thinking of when I put this together was David Hockney's Joiners, particularly one of the early ones, The Desk (from 1984). Clearly this shot is about 998 shots short of an image of that scale, but the general idea – the manipulation of space and perspective – was one of the things I had in mind. I suspect that this is something I'll return to at some point.
I prefer the original image too.
Can't wait to see your VALENTINES day pic!
i guess the sharp line seperating the left part is kind of difficult to accept...if it could've merged more in to the image the way the right part of the alley mergers, it would look much more interesting...anyway i like this one, kind of out of ordinary...:-)
It's really cool........... Kind of like waking up in the morning (far objects fuzzy and I'm trying to focus) and my son plants a Val Day Card within the only area I am able to focus.
Thanks for inspiring me to try something like this.
Even with the explanation my eye still is trying to figure it out (which is a good place to have your viewer as a photographer). Well done.
Like the majority of your correspondence I prefer the original. I have to disagree with your own assessment, the two halves just seem to be fighting one another
The two halves are too disjointed and makes the middle wall look 2 dimensional. I think you could of took the original shot with a very wide lens to make the orange wall go on for miles. That way you would of got a much more realistic interpretation of your concept.
An improvement on the first shot I feel, and an interesting piece of image manipulation so to speak
Hi David,
I continue seeing your photos, there are some oh them i dont like specialy; this is one of them, but all your work is very interesting.
Can i put you one question? Think you there is a great diference between process raw picd on Phase One or in Utilities of Canon? ( i work with a 20D like you, and i dont see any diference between the 2 processment.( Sorry for my bad english, please...)
Daivd,
I immediately thought of Hockney's work when I saw this post. I had a professor in school that does this kind of work but in triptics...I think youve done well with this one...I have been trying to attempt some composite shots as well. Nothing to Hockneys scale of course but along the lines of yours perhaps...anyway check it out when you get a chance.
http://carterrosephotography.com/index.php?showimage=33
i like the original better...just because the picture is a little confusing
It confuses me the more i look at it and think about it! V arty :-P i like it. At first i thought 'how has he got the sudden focus' till i read your comment about it and worked out what you'd done! Sooo impressive, i like :-)
Thanks everyone, clearly this is an approach I need to think through in a bit more detail before using again.
Both are great but the current one makes me think the wall is actually a door or way out. You just have to find the key. Pushing the right brick might do the trick. Maybe it's a tardis??
RustyJ
Excelent.
i defninitely go for the spliced one. the original is just not enough, but what you did here is very intriguing and beautiful.
lovely