I met up with John today, which wasn't unusual, but we were also joined by Eric Kelley who runs conomocity.com. Eric, normally based in Charlottesville, Virginia, had been over in Ireland for a week but stopped off in Blackpool on his way home. We toured a number of my usual haunts, and while I don't think I managed any great photographs, we did have a good day. Cheers Eric :-)
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comment byChris Bamber at 10:52 PM (GMT) on 6 June, 2006
Nice! I like the colours, and the new vs old graffitti.
I've been looking for some graffitti around Basingstoke to shoot but there doesnt appear to be anything of interest. Except for an outbreak of slugs that i'll shoot sometime next week.
comment bynuno f at 11:06 PM (GMT) on 6 June, 2006
This look like an HDR shot. Amazing colors and contrast. The light is perfectly dispersed in all the composition. :-)
comment byRobert at 11:09 PM (GMT) on 6 June, 2006
I like the layers of graffiti but the hard shadow is annoying. I can't say why, but the photo would feel stronger if all the walls were evenly lit.
comment byKarl Baumann at 11:12 PM (GMT) on 6 June, 2006
Colorful photo, but I´m not sure it looks so ordinary and troubled.
Reminds me very much of an album cover by I think "futura", one of my much loved urban artists. The album was a mix of the best bits of DJ Krush (by himself) entitled Holonic:
David, this is SO good in any number of ways. Wow.
comment bynavin harish at 08:42 AM (GMT) on 7 June, 2006
Now time to wipe it clean and start over
comment bynavin harish at 08:44 AM (GMT) on 7 June, 2006
Saw your and John's pic on Eric's blog. In that pic the two of you look like twins
comment by smo at 09:19 AM (GMT) on 7 June, 2006
Great shot. I really like it. Looks best with a dark theme, btw.
cheers
comment by m at 12:25 PM (GMT) on 7 June, 2006
Nice colours? Maybe
But what a load of crap, every single bit of the image is some street urchins "tag". These "tags" are applied to busses, trains, private and civic property and cost a fortune to clean up.
Now we see it glorified on Chromasia, some Graffiti may have artistic merit this stuff does not.
Shoot the buggers not their vandalism.
I have to agree with m:
I hate the idea of gloryfying vandalism, and quite a few people don't understand the differences of vandalsim and graffiti.
I was litterally talking about it the other day on my photoblog:
http://jamesdodd.net/?area=gallery2&do=view&start=95
I know it comes across as attractive because of the whole urban thing, but thats just what they do to market it.
Can I ask "what sort of area this was in??? did it seem inplace with the spirit of the place???"
comment byTimothy Gray at 01:09 PM (GMT) on 7 June, 2006
Nice image! The alignment is well done and gives the impression of looking out a window into the scene. You took a conservative approach in the color handling of this too it looks like, which is a pleasant departure from the oversaturated images we see so often. Print this one BIG!
comment byRaymond Tse at 02:31 PM (GMT) on 7 June, 2006
I think this is one of your best. I'm interested to know how you got the graffiti to stand out so well (even with HDR) - with my previous efforts, the spray paint ends up weak in the photo.
To me it is just boring. Photographically good but a boring subject. This isn't even artistic graffiti. Come on buddy, shoot something with some emotion next time.
comment by smo at 04:17 PM (GMT) on 7 June, 2006
Maybe this leads a bit off, but I'm wondering what's all the rage about vandalism and such. I mean this site is committed to photography. And as such it documents the environment we all live in. Take many of the 'beachcombing' shots for example. They show trash on the beach. I didn't hear anyone complaining about people mindlessly throwing away garbage, let alone glorifying it.
I think shooting things like this is perfectly ok, if the results work. And this photo definately works (for me, that is).
I shoot a lot of graffiti and tags.. I love quality graffiti and generally dislike tagging.. I particulary like the word 'pathetic ' on the ceiling in the doorway and this is what sums up the feel of the image.. it represents boring , pathetic, brutal, tribal, territorial scrawling as well as commenting on the asbo culture found in northern cities/towns like Blackpool.. For me it certainly works.
The whole graffiti thing can be an interesting debate. It is criminal damage in the UK regardless of how artistic it is (unless you do it on your own property and don't cause a public order offence by it's content) I personally like the photo for what it is, but I'm sure the owner of the premise would beg to differ.
IMO these photos are attractive because we can linger and view scenes that in the main we would pass quickly without hanging around for long.
I'm not sure that Djn is glorifying it at all. When 'm' suggests shooting the buggers he could always take a trip to the many photographic sites that depict people who have been shot and peruse those galleries instead.
Graffiti is Graffiti, and it's been around since man learned to scribe on walls (or so I was told at school)
comment byMartin at 04:45 PM (GMT) on 7 June, 2006
I'm afraid I agree with K's comments above. I just don't find this shot interesting. I have been a big fan of Chromasia since you hit it big with the BBC posting - some of your earlier stuff was really sublime. But lately I do not like your images at all. Your style is definetly developing, changing - is this a conscious decision / change or direction ?
comment bySysagent at 05:10 PM (GMT) on 7 June, 2006
Nice shot photography wise with a great use of light and colour, but yes it is a "bloody mess" to look at (as we say up North) so I am in two minds in wether or not this kind of image should be captured or not...
Blimey, surprised at the reaction to this image, I suppose, being a little more critical the actual subject is rather busy and perhaps lacking any real artistic merit but then, perhaps you can see it just as that, a record of artist 'lack'.
As for your photography of late, yes, perhaps I do miss your sublime portrait shots, your interesting long exposures and landscapes. I would have those over the overtly abstract stuff any day but then is a blog and I suppose you are evolving. Or at least experimenting and finding a style that pleases you Dave.
Good luck on that quest, I'm quite enjoying mine and perhaps as with you, shoot images that please me and not necessarily everyone else...
mooch: I'm not sure where things are going at the moment. One thing though: I'm really short of time at the moment so I'm not spending as much time shooting as I'd like. Hopefully, in the next few weeks, things should settle down a bit.
m (and others): shots such as these interest me. They display a history, and as such, in my opinion at least, are worth photographing. I don't think this means that I'm applauding or celebrating vandalism, or saying that this is art, or anything else in particular, rather that I think the scene has interest.
comment by João Coelho Garcia at 10:51 AM (GMT) on 14 June, 2006
I met up with John today, which wasn't unusual, but we were also joined by Eric Kelley who runs conomocity.com. Eric, normally based in Charlottesville, Virginia, had been over in Ireland for a week but stopped off in Blackpool on his way home. We toured a number of my usual haunts, and while I don't think I managed any great photographs, we did have a good day. Cheers Eric :-)
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exposure bias
metering mode
ISO
flash
image quality
RAW converter
cropped?
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27mm (43mm equiv.)
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aperture priority
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hey thats a great shot. I love the vibrant colours!
nice shot, I cant see "open sesame" writting :P
Nice! I like the colours, and the new vs old graffitti.
I've been looking for some graffitti around Basingstoke to shoot but there doesnt appear to be anything of interest. Except for an outbreak of slugs that i'll shoot sometime next week.
This look like an HDR shot. Amazing colors and contrast. The light is perfectly dispersed in all the composition. :-)
I like the layers of graffiti but the hard shadow is annoying. I can't say why, but the photo would feel stronger if all the walls were evenly lit.
Colorful photo, but I´m not sure it looks so ordinary and troubled.
Reminds me very much of an album cover by I think "futura", one of my much loved urban artists. The album was a mix of the best bits of DJ Krush (by himself) entitled Holonic:
http://www.discogs.com/viewimages?what=R&obid=111643
This image surrounds you just like that.
Very nice color. It really sets off the different layers
so much to look at, a plethora of colour.
David, this is SO good in any number of ways. Wow.
Now time to wipe it clean and start over
Saw your and John's pic on Eric's blog. In that pic the two of you look like twins
Great shot. I really like it. Looks best with a dark theme, btw.
cheers
Nice colours? Maybe
But what a load of crap, every single bit of the image is some street urchins "tag". These "tags" are applied to busses, trains, private and civic property and cost a fortune to clean up.
Now we see it glorified on Chromasia, some Graffiti may have artistic merit this stuff does not.
Shoot the buggers not their vandalism.
I have to agree with m:
I hate the idea of gloryfying vandalism, and quite a few people don't understand the differences of vandalsim and graffiti.
I was litterally talking about it the other day on my photoblog:
http://jamesdodd.net/?area=gallery2&do=view&start=95
I know it comes across as attractive because of the whole urban thing, but thats just what they do to market it.
Can I ask "what sort of area this was in??? did it seem inplace with the spirit of the place???"
Nice image! The alignment is well done and gives the impression of looking out a window into the scene. You took a conservative approach in the color handling of this too it looks like, which is a pleasant departure from the oversaturated images we see so often. Print this one BIG!
I think this is one of your best. I'm interested to know how you got the graffiti to stand out so well (even with HDR) - with my previous efforts, the spray paint ends up weak in the photo.
To me it is just boring. Photographically good but a boring subject. This isn't even artistic graffiti. Come on buddy, shoot something with some emotion next time.
Maybe this leads a bit off, but I'm wondering what's all the rage about vandalism and such. I mean this site is committed to photography. And as such it documents the environment we all live in. Take many of the 'beachcombing' shots for example. They show trash on the beach. I didn't hear anyone complaining about people mindlessly throwing away garbage, let alone glorifying it.
I think shooting things like this is perfectly ok, if the results work. And this photo definately works (for me, that is).
I shoot a lot of graffiti and tags.. I love quality graffiti and generally dislike tagging.. I particulary like the word 'pathetic ' on the ceiling in the doorway and this is what sums up the feel of the image.. it represents boring , pathetic, brutal, tribal, territorial scrawling as well as commenting on the asbo culture found in northern cities/towns like Blackpool.. For me it certainly works.
The whole graffiti thing can be an interesting debate. It is criminal damage in the UK regardless of how artistic it is (unless you do it on your own property and don't cause a public order offence by it's content) I personally like the photo for what it is, but I'm sure the owner of the premise would beg to differ.
IMO these photos are attractive because we can linger and view scenes that in the main we would pass quickly without hanging around for long.
I'm not sure that Djn is glorifying it at all. When 'm' suggests shooting the buggers he could always take a trip to the many photographic sites that depict people who have been shot and peruse those galleries instead.
Graffiti is Graffiti, and it's been around since man learned to scribe on walls (or so I was told at school)
I'm afraid I agree with K's comments above. I just don't find this shot interesting. I have been a big fan of Chromasia since you hit it big with the BBC posting - some of your earlier stuff was really sublime. But lately I do not like your images at all. Your style is definetly developing, changing - is this a conscious decision / change or direction ?
Nice shot photography wise with a great use of light and colour, but yes it is a "bloody mess" to look at (as we say up North) so I am in two minds in wether or not this kind of image should be captured or not...
Blimey, surprised at the reaction to this image, I suppose, being a little more critical the actual subject is rather busy and perhaps lacking any real artistic merit but then, perhaps you can see it just as that, a record of artist 'lack'.
As for your photography of late, yes, perhaps I do miss your sublime portrait shots, your interesting long exposures and landscapes. I would have those over the overtly abstract stuff any day but then is a blog and I suppose you are evolving. Or at least experimenting and finding a style that pleases you Dave.
Good luck on that quest, I'm quite enjoying mine and perhaps as with you, shoot images that please me and not necessarily everyone else...
Thanks everyone.
mooch: I'm not sure where things are going at the moment. One thing though: I'm really short of time at the moment so I'm not spending as much time shooting as I'd like. Hopefully, in the next few weeks, things should settle down a bit.
m (and others): shots such as these interest me. They display a history, and as such, in my opinion at least, are worth photographing. I don't think this means that I'm applauding or celebrating vandalism, or saying that this is art, or anything else in particular, rather that I think the scene has interest.
Please, do not glorify vandalism...
João: no disrespect, but a photograph and an endorsement are different things entirely.