This is the first of three images that feature this yellow rectangle, the one that John is photographing in yesterday's shot. The first two feature the rectangle as the main object within the shot, and I prefer tomorrow's to this one, and the third and final one has a couple of other elements too.
Unusually, I ended up with eight shots from yesterday's trip to Fleetwood which I'm going to put over the coming week. All are typically chromasian shots; i.e. fairly dramatic, offbeat colours, and so on, and I'm pleased with all of them.
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Really like this.. has an industrial flavour. all the lines are right for my autistic head and the oppressive colours really work.. the yellow rectangle adds interest as well as intrigue.. Love the meticulous simplicity.
comment by becali g. at 08:48 PM (GMT) on 25 June, 2006
super
comment by Arthur at 09:37 PM (GMT) on 25 June, 2006
I agree: great Chromasian shot!
comment bychiara at 09:45 PM (GMT) on 25 June, 2006
I love the colors. The sky looks like a painting. Really great!
So, confirmation (if any was needed) that you've definitely achieved a recognisable Chromasia style!
Before I even read the comments, my first thought was the same as most people above - but it's not just the style, shooter said it 'mundane and inconsequential...made strong...'. It's all about 'seeing'.
Gary Winogrand also summarised it neatly: "I photograph to see what the world looks like in photographs.”
comment by Violet Lavendar at 10:35 PM (GMT) on 25 June, 2006
Your leaving the manmade road and wall in realistic color while causing the naturally beautiful sky to appear ugly and threatening indicates which you value and wish to glorify. I'm left feeling disappointed in you.
Nice shot. The strong contrast between sky and wall is very interesting.
About being a Chromasian shot or not, I wonder if this kind of categorization makes sense. I wouldnt' be happy if people would begin to pretend always the same kind of images.
I'm kinda glad to see you back in the comfortable zone and yet producing such different images :D
can't wait to see the following shots and also johns (if he does put one up?)
comment byFellow Eskimo at 11:08 PM (GMT) on 25 June, 2006
Meh, nicely framed...but quite boring. Attempts at dramatic sky just do not do it for me.
comment byHeath at 11:27 PM (GMT) on 25 June, 2006
I'm a bit torn over this one. Fantastic processing, which sets a great mood, but is it a bit of a case of style over substance? Even if it is, is that such a bad thing?
Paul: in this, and the next few shots, the sky is masked and adjusted for both tone and contrast.
Roy: I like the Winogrand quote.
Violet: I'm afraid that I don't understand your comment. Are you suggesting that I'm glorifying the wall? If so, it wasn't my intention.
Heath: style over substance: there's an interesting thought. For me, I don't think I draw too sharp a distinction, and in this case I think the yellow rectangle, though fairly small in relation to the image as a whole, does provide a substantive focal point.
comment bymihai at 12:12 AM (GMT) on 26 June, 2006
cool colors...well done
comment byPIXELS-N-GRAINS at 12:19 AM (GMT) on 26 June, 2006
That looks awesome.
comment by colin at 12:59 AM (GMT) on 26 June, 2006
Now that's what i'm talking about. Quality colours..
This one to me is even more stunning...I love the sort of miniature effect the picture gives off and the clouds are absoutely stunning.
comment by pauk at 07:35 AM (GMT) on 26 June, 2006
Hi, David, your photos fascinated me for a long time but I didn t want to write another WOW comment.
Now they became dull. Overpostprocessed? Too tendencious?
I know others did comment this before: seems to me you re doing something wrong with your talent. Hm. Like... you want everybody to like your photos... i wonder what would your photos be like if you forgot shallow estethic and WOW comments? I thig they would be inovative, art, special.
yes they are great but becoming kitsch.
Sorry for bad english.
pauk: I'd prefer people to like my work than not, but that's not what motivates either my choice of subject matter or the way in which they're post-processed.
As for them being kitsch: Baudrillard's definition is:
"The kitsch object is commonly understood as one of that great army of 'trashy' objects, made of plaster of Paris [stuc] or some such imitation material: that gallery of cheap junk—accessories, folksy knickknacks, 'souvernirs', lampshades or fake African masks—which proliferate everywhere, with a preference for holiday resorts and places of leisure. (The Consumer Society: Myths and Structures. pp. 109-10).
In other words, things and objects become kitsch in relation to some other class of objects or practices. What body of work are you comparing my recent work to define it as kitsch?
comment byPlasticTV at 07:56 AM (GMT) on 26 June, 2006
If i haven't seen the shot in which John was sprawling on the ground i'd have really thought this is a wall and not an ankle-high kerb. The caption is really well thought, makes me wonder about what is over the wall and the related imageries of life (that is, if you're into THAT sort of thing).
PlasticTV: yesterday's shot was a bit misleading too; i.e. the 'kerb' is probably about 18" high.
comment bybravelee.com at 08:31 AM (GMT) on 26 June, 2006
dramatic shot like always! but I'm wondering what the original tone look like, it could have been great too, with the clouds in the sky and the texture on the wall. btw, i noticed many of your photos have a post nuclear kind of style, it's cool, but don't you like the riginal color of the nature?
comment byDavid at 08:57 AM (GMT) on 26 June, 2006
A very simple shot... but the composition, tone and colors are perfect !!! Great shot !!
comment bynavin harish at 09:03 AM (GMT) on 26 June, 2006
Nice shot. The sky is awesome
comment byMareluna at 10:24 AM (GMT) on 26 June, 2006
What's surreal heaven !!! Beautiful !
comment bym a r i n u s at 11:46 AM (GMT) on 26 June, 2006
I really like the yellow square in this composition. And the sky here fits well. Athough i'm not into this colors of sky but i think it fits. And the over processing, i think its your style and when seeing one of your pictures i can tell its yours.
comment byAzhar at 12:19 PM (GMT) on 26 June, 2006
More than the photo, I love the processing.
The composition is perfectly executed, and the processed green sky surprisingly goes well with the whole photo, in fact it adds more, and darkening it makes sure my eye will go to the yellow, which has some great textures to it.I love the black and brown at the bottom which brings out the yellow even more.Perfect vignetting may I add. Learnt alot from this one.
GREAT GREAT GREAT SHOT!
comment bySteveO at 12:31 PM (GMT) on 26 June, 2006
Why do i seem to be finding a dirty yellow rectangle on a kerb so damn interesting? It doesn't make sense, but i do. The power of photography, you gotta love it :-)
comment byKarl Baumann at 12:42 PM (GMT) on 26 June, 2006
The edge to heaven :-)
comment byIan Farrell at 02:13 PM (GMT) on 26 June, 2006
Great image, with a lovely feel to it. Looking forward to parts 2 and 3.
comment by Roger at 04:32 PM (GMT) on 26 June, 2006
A great shot and now that I've visited several times, a definite Chromasia shot..... Love the way you process and certainly would love to know how you do it!!
:-)
comment by Jake at 05:37 PM (GMT) on 26 June, 2006
I have noticed there are many people that comment negatively on you're style of photography and processing. I do not understand it? It is you're style, and I think it is beautiful, different, your own. I think processing can sometimes be a way to connect with your photos, taking what you have shot, mixing it with the feeling you felt while shooting, and overall conveying a mood or emotion. I don’t think you can really say a style is "bad" just because it doesn’t suit your taste. I personally do not like some Neo-Classical Artwork, but I will never say that it is bad, because without it we wouldn’t have Art that I do enjoy. I think you have to take things in context when viewing art and photography. I would not compare Abstract Expressionism to Neo-Classical work in terms of god and bad, just as I would not compare David's work with a more natural style of photography (saying one is better than the other). They each have their own style and feeling. These are just my thoughts, and I know everyone is entitled to their own opinions, so I just want to say that I am not saying anyone is wrong for displaying their personal opinions... I just think some peoples comments go beyond a constructive criticism to being just plain rude. I think some people may need to look harder at an image and try to feel it, and not just see it...
I love this image, thank you again for your photos...
comment byBeakerSt at 06:07 PM (GMT) on 26 June, 2006
I always look and rarely comment. This is another that I would describe as having received the classic 'Chromasia' treatment. I've read the comments above with interest, everyone strives for their shots to be liked and some work better than others. This to me works better than most because of the composition and colour balance.
I've always wanted to understand how you get the tonal results and you've provided more insight today. However I've always hesitated in trying them as if I were to reproduce something akin to your style I feel I would be condemned for jumping on the bandwagon. I therefore admire and respectfully plough my own furrow...with just a smidgen of jealousy which is no bad thing! Keep up the excellent work.
Simon
comment by Rob at 06:44 PM (GMT) on 26 June, 2006
Really like this one - and can't wait to see more traditional "Chromasia-style" shots in the coming days. You guys really know how to work that beach.
bravelee: yep, I suppose post-nuclear does summarise the style of some of my shots. As for what I think of the original colours: sometimes I think they're fine, but often they don't tally with the mood or feel I'm trying to create.
Jake and BeakerSt: thanks.
One last point: the notion of "over-processing" isn't one that makes a great deal of sense to me. Sure, things can be badly processed, but I get the impression that's not what people mean when they suggest that some of my shots are over-processed, but the idea of over-processing relates more (I think) to Jake's point regarding the distinction between personal preference and critique. Don't get me wrong, I don't have any problem with people preferring the more naturalistic shots that I put up, but the degree of post-processing that I apply to a shot is my call ;-)
comment bySysagent at 07:38 PM (GMT) on 26 June, 2006
How do you do it, you make the mundane look impressive.
That is all I have to say...
comment bym a r i n u s at 02:51 PM (GMT) on 27 June, 2006
As you are right about the over processing, i didnt mean it as bad, cause i don't think there is a bad way of processing, its just a road to get to your destination and we all have different destinations. There aint bad destinations. Maybe its because english isn't my first language , i use the word over processing to point out the way of doing more processing than only adjust a bit of "basic" processing. (agree with jake)
This is the first of three images that feature this yellow rectangle, the one that John is photographing in yesterday's shot. The first two feature the rectangle as the main object within the shot, and I prefer tomorrow's to this one, and the third and final one has a couple of other elements too.
Unusually, I ended up with eight shots from yesterday's trip to Fleetwood which I'm going to put over the coming week. All are typically chromasian shots; i.e. fairly dramatic, offbeat colours, and so on, and I'm pleased with all of them.
camera
lens
focal length
aperture
shutter speed
shooting mode
exposure bias
metering mode
ISO
flash
image quality
RAW converter
cropped?
Canon 20D
EF 17-40 f/4L USM
17mm (27mm equiv.)
f/8.0
1/800
aperture priority
-2/3
evaluative
100
no
RAW
C1 Pro
minor rotation
From yesterday's photo this wall didn't seem like much of a photo opportunity, but this is a great image!
I need to open my eyes more ;)
The color and tone are exceptional. I really like the 'normal' color of the wall against the altered sky.
Regards,
Jason
A mundane and inconsequential scene made into a very strong and impacting shot, love the PP and framing..
That is a classic Chromasia shot. I wish I knew how you got your skies like that! Very nice indeed.
I'm glad to see a return to the Chromasia style of photos. :-)
Really like this.. has an industrial flavour. all the lines are right for my autistic head and the oppressive colours really work.. the yellow rectangle adds interest as well as intrigue.. Love the meticulous simplicity.
super
I agree: great Chromasian shot!
I love the colors. The sky looks like a painting. Really great!
So, confirmation (if any was needed) that you've definitely achieved a recognisable Chromasia style!
Before I even read the comments, my first thought was the same as most people above - but it's not just the style, shooter said it 'mundane and inconsequential...made strong...'. It's all about 'seeing'.
Gary Winogrand also summarised it neatly: "I photograph to see what the world looks like in photographs.”
Your leaving the manmade road and wall in realistic color while causing the naturally beautiful sky to appear ugly and threatening indicates which you value and wish to glorify. I'm left feeling disappointed in you.
Nice shot. The strong contrast between sky and wall is very interesting.
About being a Chromasian shot or not, I wonder if this kind of categorization makes sense. I wouldnt' be happy if people would begin to pretend always the same kind of images.
I'm kinda glad to see you back in the comfortable zone and yet producing such different images :D
can't wait to see the following shots and also johns (if he does put one up?)
Meh, nicely framed...but quite boring. Attempts at dramatic sky just do not do it for me.
I'm a bit torn over this one. Fantastic processing, which sets a great mood, but is it a bit of a case of style over substance? Even if it is, is that such a bad thing?
Paul: in this, and the next few shots, the sky is masked and adjusted for both tone and contrast.
Roy: I like the Winogrand quote.
Violet: I'm afraid that I don't understand your comment. Are you suggesting that I'm glorifying the wall? If so, it wasn't my intention.
Heath: style over substance: there's an interesting thought. For me, I don't think I draw too sharp a distinction, and in this case I think the yellow rectangle, though fairly small in relation to the image as a whole, does provide a substantive focal point.
cool colors...well done
That looks awesome.
Now that's what i'm talking about. Quality colours..
This one to me is even more stunning...I love the sort of miniature effect the picture gives off and the clouds are absoutely stunning.
Hi, David, your photos fascinated me for a long time but I didn t want to write another WOW comment.
Now they became dull. Overpostprocessed? Too tendencious?
I know others did comment this before: seems to me you re doing something wrong with your talent. Hm. Like... you want everybody to like your photos... i wonder what would your photos be like if you forgot shallow estethic and WOW comments? I thig they would be inovative, art, special.
yes they are great but becoming kitsch.
Sorry for bad english.
pauk: I'd prefer people to like my work than not, but that's not what motivates either my choice of subject matter or the way in which they're post-processed.
As for them being kitsch: Baudrillard's definition is:
"The kitsch object is commonly understood as one of that great army of 'trashy' objects, made of plaster of Paris [stuc] or some such imitation material: that gallery of cheap junk—accessories, folksy knickknacks, 'souvernirs', lampshades or fake African masks—which proliferate everywhere, with a preference for holiday resorts and places of leisure. (The Consumer Society: Myths and Structures. pp. 109-10).
In other words, things and objects become kitsch in relation to some other class of objects or practices. What body of work are you comparing my recent work to define it as kitsch?
If i haven't seen the shot in which John was sprawling on the ground i'd have really thought this is a wall and not an ankle-high kerb. The caption is really well thought, makes me wonder about what is over the wall and the related imageries of life (that is, if you're into THAT sort of thing).
PlasticTV: yesterday's shot was a bit misleading too; i.e. the 'kerb' is probably about 18" high.
dramatic shot like always! but I'm wondering what the original tone look like, it could have been great too, with the clouds in the sky and the texture on the wall. btw, i noticed many of your photos have a post nuclear kind of style, it's cool, but don't you like the riginal color of the nature?
A very simple shot... but the composition, tone and colors are perfect !!! Great shot !!
Nice shot. The sky is awesome
What's surreal heaven !!! Beautiful !
I really like the yellow square in this composition. And the sky here fits well. Athough i'm not into this colors of sky but i think it fits. And the over processing, i think its your style and when seeing one of your pictures i can tell its yours.
More than the photo, I love the processing.
The composition is perfectly executed, and the processed green sky surprisingly goes well with the whole photo, in fact it adds more, and darkening it makes sure my eye will go to the yellow, which has some great textures to it.I love the black and brown at the bottom which brings out the yellow even more.Perfect vignetting may I add. Learnt alot from this one.
GREAT GREAT GREAT SHOT!
Why do i seem to be finding a dirty yellow rectangle on a kerb so damn interesting? It doesn't make sense, but i do. The power of photography, you gotta love it :-)
The edge to heaven :-)
Great image, with a lovely feel to it. Looking forward to parts 2 and 3.
Really like this. It feels sinister.
A great shot and now that I've visited several times, a definite Chromasia shot..... Love the way you process and certainly would love to know how you do it!!
:-)
I have noticed there are many people that comment negatively on you're style of photography and processing. I do not understand it? It is you're style, and I think it is beautiful, different, your own. I think processing can sometimes be a way to connect with your photos, taking what you have shot, mixing it with the feeling you felt while shooting, and overall conveying a mood or emotion. I don’t think you can really say a style is "bad" just because it doesn’t suit your taste. I personally do not like some Neo-Classical Artwork, but I will never say that it is bad, because without it we wouldn’t have Art that I do enjoy. I think you have to take things in context when viewing art and photography. I would not compare Abstract Expressionism to Neo-Classical work in terms of god and bad, just as I would not compare David's work with a more natural style of photography (saying one is better than the other). They each have their own style and feeling. These are just my thoughts, and I know everyone is entitled to their own opinions, so I just want to say that I am not saying anyone is wrong for displaying their personal opinions... I just think some peoples comments go beyond a constructive criticism to being just plain rude. I think some people may need to look harder at an image and try to feel it, and not just see it...
I love this image, thank you again for your photos...
I always look and rarely comment. This is another that I would describe as having received the classic 'Chromasia' treatment. I've read the comments above with interest, everyone strives for their shots to be liked and some work better than others. This to me works better than most because of the composition and colour balance.
I've always wanted to understand how you get the tonal results and you've provided more insight today. However I've always hesitated in trying them as if I were to reproduce something akin to your style I feel I would be condemned for jumping on the bandwagon. I therefore admire and respectfully plough my own furrow...with just a smidgen of jealousy which is no bad thing! Keep up the excellent work.
Simon
Really like this one - and can't wait to see more traditional "Chromasia-style" shots in the coming days. You guys really know how to work that beach.
Thanks all :-)
bravelee: yep, I suppose post-nuclear does summarise the style of some of my shots. As for what I think of the original colours: sometimes I think they're fine, but often they don't tally with the mood or feel I'm trying to create.
Jake and BeakerSt: thanks.
One last point: the notion of "over-processing" isn't one that makes a great deal of sense to me. Sure, things can be badly processed, but I get the impression that's not what people mean when they suggest that some of my shots are over-processed, but the idea of over-processing relates more (I think) to Jake's point regarding the distinction between personal preference and critique. Don't get me wrong, I don't have any problem with people preferring the more naturalistic shots that I put up, but the degree of post-processing that I apply to a shot is my call ;-)
How do you do it, you make the mundane look impressive.
That is all I have to say...
As you are right about the over processing, i didnt mean it as bad, cause i don't think there is a bad way of processing, its just a road to get to your destination and we all have different destinations. There aint bad destinations. Maybe its because english isn't my first language , i use the word over processing to point out the way of doing more processing than only adjust a bit of "basic" processing. (agree with jake)
m a r i n u s: yep, that makes sense.
As said by others the colours, sharpness and contrast in this image are great.
Interesting discussion BTW.
Another fantastic composition. Great work.
What a minimalistic, yet perfectly framed shot!