I went up to Fleetwood today – to blow away the cobwebs – and came back with this. Unusually, I used fill-flash on this shot as it didn't seem likely I'd be able to rescue sufficient detail in the posts by any other means. Had it not been quite so windy I might have tried a multiple exposure HDR, but there was a very strong on-shore wind so that wasn't really an option.
Update: following a couple of the initial comments I decided to rework this one a little – the sky is now a little more dramatic and the foreground is marginally lighter. The original version, should you be interested, is here:
comment byMark at 09:53 PM (GMT) on 9 August, 2006
It's nice...but it's lacking something, although I can't quite put my finger on what that something might be....I'll have to think about it Dave..
comment bytibs at 10:01 PM (GMT) on 9 August, 2006
i like it
comment byEric at 10:06 PM (GMT) on 9 August, 2006
I think what Mark thinks it might be lacking is some pop in the clouds, although I think it is more successful without the poppiness in the sky. It is a nice contrast between the rocks and great detail and the clouds and the subtle colours and tones.
Good work Dave!
comment by m at 10:14 PM (GMT) on 9 August, 2006
You've hit a rich vein of form
comment byScott at 10:26 PM (GMT) on 9 August, 2006
When I initially saw the image, I thought it to be HDR - it definitely has that slightly surreal look to it. All in all, I'd say that you pulled this one off very, very well.
comment by Jeppe at 10:35 PM (GMT) on 9 August, 2006
Nice. But kinda flat somehow, which is very unusual by Chromasia standards.. Maybe you could've splashed down the .. (whatever you call them), and used a polarizing filter? Or maybe there's just a little too much flash.
comment byMark at 10:40 PM (GMT) on 9 August, 2006
Eric - interesting comment. Am I right in thinking that you're basically saying I'm wrong in my (non) assessment by thinking you know what I'm thinking? Maybe not, maybe so.. ;-)
'Poppiness of sky'? No...that's not quite it, although you're on the right lines I think. The balance between sky and ground seems off to me. Is that poppiness? I don't think so.
It's quite simply that when I look at the image as a whole my immediate reaction is that something's off. Perhaps if the clouds were more scattered and less overcast it would balance better - once again I stress..'for me'.
Of course Dave can't control the sky...well...at least I don't think he can. :-)
comment bymikelangelo at 10:41 PM (GMT) on 9 August, 2006
I like this one. I really like the textures and the interest in the posts. I like the soft background as well...just makes the posts really stand out. nice shot.
comment bysach1tb at 11:43 PM (GMT) on 9 August, 2006
I can feel the solidness in this picture. The movement of water below and the sky above really enhances the stability of the rocks
comment bymooch at 12:21 AM (GMT) on 10 August, 2006
Um, I like this site, is it a collective....
Lovely shot, great tones. I am crap with flash and tend to avoid, I just cannot control it. The sky could perhaps benefit from a little more 'poppiness' which I do believe would have been achieved by HDR. Lovely nonetheless.
Very interest color change from the sky to the ground.
comment bynavin harish at 02:57 AM (GMT) on 10 August, 2006
Nice shot. How big are these stones?
comment bymicki at 03:23 AM (GMT) on 10 August, 2006
Fill flash well used, the details are wonderful. With the flash, the growth on the rocks look like gold.
comment byMolly at 03:31 AM (GMT) on 10 August, 2006
interesting sense of scale with this one
comment byCrankPhoto at 03:34 AM (GMT) on 10 August, 2006
I'm with Mark above, there's life in that sky and you didn't bring it to us. Also, the green on that seaweed/moss probably stands out a lot more against the darkened wood when seen in person...also didn't come through as good as it could.
comment by cy at 04:29 AM (GMT) on 10 August, 2006
this is really lovely. makes me wish i could switch places with you for a moment and really see, smell, and feel these wnderful images you delight us with. keep enriching us...
comment byJarama at 04:38 AM (GMT) on 10 August, 2006
When I first saw this shot, I thought it w as taken from high on a cliff somewhere. Then I read the comment about fill flash and realized that I had the scale all wrong. I agree about the green though, seems a bit hyperreal compared to teh rest of the image...
comment byJon at 07:16 AM (GMT) on 10 August, 2006
The post processing on this one is amazing.
comment by jonespdb at 07:47 AM (GMT) on 10 August, 2006
cracking shot - could almost be a scene from a sci-fi movie. Hope this will appear in your tutorials when they come.
Cheers
Phil.
comment by John at 08:44 AM (GMT) on 10 August, 2006
Mark: maybe it's because we are used to seeing a much more vibrant sky from Djn. I know what you mean though. Personally, I think a similarly punchy sky might have hindered the separation of the foreground to background.
Nice photo of course. I'm sure ths is the work of someone else ;-)
comment by unDavide at 11:50 AM (GMT) on 10 August, 2006
Hi, interesting shoot as usual (maybe he sky is a bit "something else" compared to the rest of the picture...) An "off topic" comment: Firefox browser (latest version 1.5.0.6) has some (huge...) problems with Chromasia stylesheets - something that never happened in the past month. Hope you could fix it ;-)
comment byico at 12:40 PM (GMT) on 10 August, 2006
Amazign photos. Some day I hope i will know how to take pictures on this high level of quality.
comment bysleepless dream at 02:07 PM (GMT) on 10 August, 2006
although the exposure is spot on, this shot doesn't really have a purpose for me. what's the focus? the two rocks? the background? if its the rocks, their texture & palette isn't well highlighted from this distance. if its the background its interrupted by the rocks.
forgive me david for i have sinned :)
comment bymark at 02:09 PM (GMT) on 10 August, 2006
John - good point. :-) It's actually one of those images that don't grab me at first but I warm to on further viewings.
comment byDarren at 02:30 PM (GMT) on 10 August, 2006
The outline of the rocks against the sky looks a bit too sharp. Like maybe you made a selection but didn't feather it or something. It may just be how it really looked but to me it looks a bit unatural.
comment byDAVE at 02:57 PM (GMT) on 10 August, 2006
Just freaking gorgeous
comment bymooch at 02:59 PM (GMT) on 10 August, 2006
Dave, just thought you should know that someone is posting comments on my site using your username. I wonder if they're doing it anywhere else? Cheers.
comment byCraig Wilson at 03:28 PM (GMT) on 10 August, 2006
Nice shot, colours and tones are very good.
comment bywesley hargrove at 04:01 PM (GMT) on 10 August, 2006
i like the redo a lot better than the first one :) excellent job
comment byNate at 04:11 PM (GMT) on 10 August, 2006
I haven't been here in a long time and your work is always so awesome. The photos of your children are so wonderful I don't really have words for it. This shot here has a perfect composition and you already know how well you do with the processing. Very awesome shot.
comment bym i k e b at 06:50 PM (GMT) on 10 August, 2006
Wonderful color tones and detail in the rocks. Very nice improvement on the sky as well.
comment byPlasticTV at 06:51 PM (GMT) on 10 August, 2006
The two pieces of stone actually look like mountains in their own right. Great job! The flash looks natural enough.
comment bydjn1 at 08:14 PM (GMT) on 10 August, 2006
Thanks everyone.
navin: the one of the left was about 12" high.
Jarama: I couldn't do much about the greens in the image without making it look unnatural.
Phil: yep, this one would be a good one for the tutorials, I'll keep it in mind.
sleepless dream: I guess the focus, for me, was the two posts in their context.
Darren: yes, the divide between the posts and the sky does look too sharp, though I've toned it down in this version. I think, as much as anything else, it's a consequence of the fill-flash; i.e. as the light falls away around the posts the edges seem unnaturally dark.
mooch: thanks, I'll mention it on tomorrow's entry.
comment byPhoto Traces at 02:38 AM (GMT) on 11 August, 2006
great as usual...
comment bymamo at 04:12 PM (GMT) on 11 August, 2006
this is beautiful!! stunning perspective
comment bydelphinE at 02:55 PM (GMT) on 14 August, 2006
amazing like every time !
you've got a wonderul eye.
comment byAndy at 08:44 AM (GMT) on 15 August, 2006
I went up to Fleetwood today – to blow away the cobwebs – and came back with this. Unusually, I used fill-flash on this shot as it didn't seem likely I'd be able to rescue sufficient detail in the posts by any other means. Had it not been quite so windy I might have tried a multiple exposure HDR, but there was a very strong on-shore wind so that wasn't really an option.
Update: following a couple of the initial comments I decided to rework this one a little – the sky is now a little more dramatic and the foreground is marginally lighter. The original version, should you be interested, is here:
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It's nice...but it's lacking something, although I can't quite put my finger on what that something might be....I'll have to think about it Dave..
i like it
I think what Mark thinks it might be lacking is some pop in the clouds, although I think it is more successful without the poppiness in the sky. It is a nice contrast between the rocks and great detail and the clouds and the subtle colours and tones.
Good work Dave!
You've hit a rich vein of form
When I initially saw the image, I thought it to be HDR - it definitely has that slightly surreal look to it. All in all, I'd say that you pulled this one off very, very well.
Nice. But kinda flat somehow, which is very unusual by Chromasia standards.. Maybe you could've splashed down the .. (whatever you call them), and used a polarizing filter? Or maybe there's just a little too much flash.
Eric - interesting comment. Am I right in thinking that you're basically saying I'm wrong in my (non) assessment by thinking you know what I'm thinking? Maybe not, maybe so.. ;-)
'Poppiness of sky'? No...that's not quite it, although you're on the right lines I think. The balance between sky and ground seems off to me. Is that poppiness? I don't think so.
It's quite simply that when I look at the image as a whole my immediate reaction is that something's off. Perhaps if the clouds were more scattered and less overcast it would balance better - once again I stress..'for me'.
Of course Dave can't control the sky...well...at least I don't think he can. :-)
I like this one. I really like the textures and the interest in the posts. I like the soft background as well...just makes the posts really stand out. nice shot.
Great work! Very strong composition.
I can feel the solidness in this picture. The movement of water below and the sky above really enhances the stability of the rocks
Um, I like this site, is it a collective....
Lovely shot, great tones. I am crap with flash and tend to avoid, I just cannot control it. The sky could perhaps benefit from a little more 'poppiness' which I do believe would have been achieved by HDR. Lovely nonetheless.
Very interest color change from the sky to the ground.
Nice shot. How big are these stones?
Fill flash well used, the details are wonderful. With the flash, the growth on the rocks look like gold.
interesting sense of scale with this one
I'm with Mark above, there's life in that sky and you didn't bring it to us. Also, the green on that seaweed/moss probably stands out a lot more against the darkened wood when seen in person...also didn't come through as good as it could.
this is really lovely. makes me wish i could switch places with you for a moment and really see, smell, and feel these wnderful images you delight us with. keep enriching us...
When I first saw this shot, I thought it w as taken from high on a cliff somewhere. Then I read the comment about fill flash and realized that I had the scale all wrong. I agree about the green though, seems a bit hyperreal compared to teh rest of the image...
The post processing on this one is amazing.
cracking shot - could almost be a scene from a sci-fi movie. Hope this will appear in your tutorials when they come.
Cheers
Phil.
Mark: maybe it's because we are used to seeing a much more vibrant sky from Djn. I know what you mean though. Personally, I think a similarly punchy sky might have hindered the separation of the foreground to background.
Nice photo of course. I'm sure ths is the work of someone else ;-)
Hi, interesting shoot as usual (maybe he sky is a bit "something else" compared to the rest of the picture...) An "off topic" comment: Firefox browser (latest version 1.5.0.6) has some (huge...) problems with Chromasia stylesheets - something that never happened in the past month. Hope you could fix it ;-)
Amazign photos. Some day I hope i will know how to take pictures on this high level of quality.
although the exposure is spot on, this shot doesn't really have a purpose for me. what's the focus? the two rocks? the background? if its the rocks, their texture & palette isn't well highlighted from this distance. if its the background its interrupted by the rocks.
forgive me david for i have sinned :)
John - good point. :-) It's actually one of those images that don't grab me at first but I warm to on further viewings.
The outline of the rocks against the sky looks a bit too sharp. Like maybe you made a selection but didn't feather it or something. It may just be how it really looked but to me it looks a bit unatural.
Just freaking gorgeous
Dave, just thought you should know that someone is posting comments on my site using your username. I wonder if they're doing it anywhere else? Cheers.
Nice shot, colours and tones are very good.
i like the redo a lot better than the first one :) excellent job
I haven't been here in a long time and your work is always so awesome. The photos of your children are so wonderful I don't really have words for it. This shot here has a perfect composition and you already know how well you do with the processing. Very awesome shot.
Wonderful color tones and detail in the rocks. Very nice improvement on the sky as well.
The two pieces of stone actually look like mountains in their own right. Great job! The flash looks natural enough.
Thanks everyone.
navin: the one of the left was about 12" high.
Jarama: I couldn't do much about the greens in the image without making it look unnatural.
Phil: yep, this one would be a good one for the tutorials, I'll keep it in mind.
sleepless dream: I guess the focus, for me, was the two posts in their context.
Darren: yes, the divide between the posts and the sky does look too sharp, though I've toned it down in this version. I think, as much as anything else, it's a consequence of the fill-flash; i.e. as the light falls away around the posts the edges seem unnaturally dark.
mooch: thanks, I'll mention it on tomorrow's entry.
great as usual...
this is beautiful!! stunning perspective
amazing like every time !
you've got a wonderul eye.
This is really good... I like very much indeed...