Here's the second portrait I mentioned. This one is of Daisy, Aimee's sister.
I'd be interested to hear how you think the two shots compare. Personally, I think I prefer this one, but only because I consciously post-processed this one a little differently from normal.
Oh, and for those of you who stopped by yesterday and thought that the shot of Aimee was too blurry around the edges: I posted a new version earlier today.
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comment by doreen at 07:41 PM (GMT) on 10 April, 2007
she has gorgeous eyes! it might just be my monitor, but has the pink-ish tone of this portrait been added in through PS?
i liked the less blurry version of her sister's portrait.
comment byJonny at 07:53 PM (GMT) on 10 April, 2007
Whilst clearly this girl is pretty and photogenic, I don't feel that this processing does her any favours. It reminds me of those 'old' photos shot in black and white that have fake colour added. I would love to see the original or a bw version (with less softening). This processing has, for me, resulted in a clown-like feel to the image. Sharp eyes tho...I can't fault those.
comment by Jennifer at 07:57 PM (GMT) on 10 April, 2007
Lovin' the effect - for the same reasons that Jonny doesn't! ;-D
comment byLaura at 08:11 PM (GMT) on 10 April, 2007
What a beautifull picture! I do prefer yesterday's one though, but can't really say why. Perhaps i like the black-white of Aimee more and is this one a bit too pink for me. And I think I missing some contrast/depth in Daisys face.
comment by Oliver at 08:14 PM (GMT) on 10 April, 2007
I fully agree with Jonny... and to be honest, it's the first time I open your photoblog and really don't like what I see...
Anyway, even though I am not a big fan of the post processing on this one, I am still eagerly waiting for the online tutorial...
This is a small point, but one that keeps grabbing my attention. Each time I look at the photo, I think there is something on her chin, which there isn't, it's just the light coming through from her hair behind, but it's there all the same. Sorry to sound picky.
comment bychiara at 10:07 PM (GMT) on 10 April, 2007
To be honest I prefer your beach shots. This image is well composed but there is some wierd lighting in the center of her face. It looks lighter and unnatural. Not sure really.
comment byPhilB at 10:22 PM (GMT) on 10 April, 2007
I prefer the updated shot of Aimee to this one, I'm afraid. I agree with chiara about the weird lighting in the middle of her face - particularly noticable on the thumbnail. I wonder if it would be improved in black and white?
comment by m at 10:40 PM (GMT) on 10 April, 2007
I like this one
comment by m at 10:43 PM (GMT) on 10 April, 2007
I've just realised, did I pick B&W over colour? That doesn't happen very often :-)
comment byMinh at 10:48 PM (GMT) on 10 April, 2007
There's been a lot of technical details discussed about these portraits but I think the most important thing is that the personality/emotion of the subject shows through. I don't know these sisters but I like the nuanced differences in the way they're portrayed. Daisy seems shy and sweet and Aimee seems a lot more self-assured and possibly even mischievous. At least that's my impression from these portraits. Hopefully this is an accurate reflection of their real personalities, or at least what they wanted to be portrayed as.
comment byRick Burns at 11:35 PM (GMT) on 10 April, 2007
I'll prefer Aimee's portrait. This one, for me, is not balanced...the eyes are over sharpened for the rest of the face. Or maybe it's the sharpening and the color.
Just viewed "Sunset in Dubai" and it is very beautiful.
Rick
comment by Louise at 12:23 AM (GMT) on 11 April, 2007
Minh you are spot on about my daughter's personalities :o) That is why I love these shots so much!
comment by Jeff at 12:52 AM (GMT) on 11 April, 2007
i enjoy your pictures. is your baby photography book out yet? Jeff
comment by cy at 01:15 AM (GMT) on 11 April, 2007
this one is by far much better. it looks more soft and innocent. the other was get for the eyes but made her look older. childhood is short enough as is. i also really like the way she seems to be trying to figure it out....
comment bymooch at 08:43 AM (GMT) on 11 April, 2007
Hmmm, I prefer yesterdays. Perhaps it was the B & W. This is good but the soft nose puts me off this.
comment by jkm at 05:31 PM (GMT) on 11 April, 2007
For me the most important thing is that the mother is thrilled with both shots. To capture the true personality is such a difficult thing to achieve in portrait photography and according to the mum, David seems to have excelled on both subjects.
comment by Matt Perry at 05:54 PM (GMT) on 11 April, 2007
Is it me or does the thumbnail of this shot seem to reveal rather too much of how the processing was done? I can see a quite noticeable area around her eyes and mouth that looks a lot pinker than the surrounding face. I assume that this is the edge of a layer mask, and the surrounding area was possibly desaturated? It is harder to see on the full size image, but still there. Overall it is an interesting treatment of a well posed and lit portrait.
mattp
comment byJelb at 07:01 PM (GMT) on 11 April, 2007
Bonsoir,
Well done portrait..Nice eyes! Bravo!
comment bydjn1 at 09:35 PM (GMT) on 11 April, 2007
Thanks everyone. And I'm with jkm on this one :-)
comment by Richard Trim at 10:34 PM (GMT) on 11 April, 2007
Porcelain comes instantly to mind. Perfect flawless complexion...what a dream for any teenager!
comment byPhoto Buffet at 05:04 PM (GMT) on 12 April, 2007
I've studied both pictures and have to say that I like both of them for very differerent reasons. It's like comparing apples to oranges--can't be done. For me, it's the difference in moods. Mood is important, and I believe it can even supercede technique if portrayed well. I like this shot for its innocent feel, and the other for its beautiful b/w contrast. Nice work.
comment byMark at 06:56 PM (GMT) on 12 April, 2007
If the detail in the face was there with the eyes, this would be a more pleasing shot to me. It looks to much like you specifically blurred her face and then just masked the eyes...the coloring is good, but honestly (dont take this wrong), it looks like an amateurs try at masking. AND I KNOW you aren't an amateur :) just giving my initial reaction.
comment by Deb at 06:28 PM (GMT) on 13 April, 2007
I prefer this one, DJ. It's almost like an aquatint. Timeless. One really couldn't pinpoint an era in which the little girl lived. But both are really good examples of what 'portraiture' should do, i.e. capture an essential facet of the subject (which, according tho the girls' Mum, you did). :)
The first one of Aimee is an excellent contemporary composition. It wouldn't look out of place in a catalogue such as 'Spotlight'. It 'showcases' her (and her personality) and the inclusion of the white backdrop to act as a frame all around the central figure emphasises that. The cropping and positioning of the subject in the portrait of Daisy, slightly less...'exposed' to scrutiny.... was (if it was intentional) clever. As clever as including the subtle, gentle wash of colour.
comment byandyshon at 10:32 AM (GMT) on 16 April, 2007
Sorry mate but I find this one pretty horrible. She looks really ill to me and the purple of her eyeliner is a little too close to bruise! I actually find it quite disturbing and much prefer the B/W one. Very unusual for me to not like your processing and as jkm says, what does it matter what I think, if the mother likes it........
Here's the second portrait I mentioned. This one is of Daisy, Aimee's sister.
I'd be interested to hear how you think the two shots compare. Personally, I think I prefer this one, but only because I consciously post-processed this one a little differently from normal.
Oh, and for those of you who stopped by yesterday and thought that the shot of Aimee was too blurry around the edges: I posted a new version earlier today.
camera
lens
focal length
aperture
shutter speed
shooting mode
exposure bias
metering mode
ISO
flash
image quality
RAW converter
cropped?
Canon 5D
EF 70-200 f/2.8L IS USM
200mm
f/4.0
1/100
manual
n/a
evaluative
100
580EX and 420EX
RAW
C1 Pro
1x1
she has gorgeous eyes! it might just be my monitor, but has the pink-ish tone of this portrait been added in through PS?
i liked the less blurry version of her sister's portrait.
Whilst clearly this girl is pretty and photogenic, I don't feel that this processing does her any favours. It reminds me of those 'old' photos shot in black and white that have fake colour added. I would love to see the original or a bw version (with less softening). This processing has, for me, resulted in a clown-like feel to the image. Sharp eyes tho...I can't fault those.
Lovin' the effect - for the same reasons that Jonny doesn't! ;-D
What a beautifull picture! I do prefer yesterday's one though, but can't really say why. Perhaps i like the black-white of Aimee more and is this one a bit too pink for me. And I think I missing some contrast/depth in Daisys face.
I fully agree with Jonny... and to be honest, it's the first time I open your photoblog and really don't like what I see...
Anyway, even though I am not a big fan of the post processing on this one, I am still eagerly waiting for the online tutorial...
This is a small point, but one that keeps grabbing my attention. Each time I look at the photo, I think there is something on her chin, which there isn't, it's just the light coming through from her hair behind, but it's there all the same. Sorry to sound picky.
To be honest I prefer your beach shots. This image is well composed but there is some wierd lighting in the center of her face. It looks lighter and unnatural. Not sure really.
I prefer the updated shot of Aimee to this one, I'm afraid. I agree with chiara about the weird lighting in the middle of her face - particularly noticable on the thumbnail. I wonder if it would be improved in black and white?
I like this one
I've just realised, did I pick B&W over colour? That doesn't happen very often :-)
There's been a lot of technical details discussed about these portraits but I think the most important thing is that the personality/emotion of the subject shows through. I don't know these sisters but I like the nuanced differences in the way they're portrayed. Daisy seems shy and sweet and Aimee seems a lot more self-assured and possibly even mischievous. At least that's my impression from these portraits. Hopefully this is an accurate reflection of their real personalities, or at least what they wanted to be portrayed as.
I'll prefer Aimee's portrait. This one, for me, is not balanced...the eyes are over sharpened for the rest of the face. Or maybe it's the sharpening and the color.
Just viewed "Sunset in Dubai" and it is very beautiful.
Rick
Minh you are spot on about my daughter's personalities :o) That is why I love these shots so much!
i enjoy your pictures. is your baby photography book out yet? Jeff
this one is by far much better. it looks more soft and innocent. the other was get for the eyes but made her look older. childhood is short enough as is. i also really like the way she seems to be trying to figure it out....
Hmmm, I prefer yesterdays. Perhaps it was the B & W. This is good but the soft nose puts me off this.
I'd agree with Jonny about the "fake colour" look. The way the lips have been made to stand out doesn't seem to fit with the sense of the portrait.
Between the two, I'd go for this one.
At Daisy a bit too much red filterfilter or something.Well done!
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For me the most important thing is that the mother is thrilled with both shots. To capture the true personality is such a difficult thing to achieve in portrait photography and according to the mum, David seems to have excelled on both subjects.
Is it me or does the thumbnail of this shot seem to reveal rather too much of how the processing was done? I can see a quite noticeable area around her eyes and mouth that looks a lot pinker than the surrounding face. I assume that this is the edge of a layer mask, and the surrounding area was possibly desaturated? It is harder to see on the full size image, but still there. Overall it is an interesting treatment of a well posed and lit portrait.
mattp
Bonsoir,
Well done portrait..Nice eyes! Bravo!
Thanks everyone. And I'm with jkm on this one :-)
Porcelain comes instantly to mind. Perfect flawless complexion...what a dream for any teenager!
I've studied both pictures and have to say that I like both of them for very differerent reasons. It's like comparing apples to oranges--can't be done. For me, it's the difference in moods. Mood is important, and I believe it can even supercede technique if portrayed well. I like this shot for its innocent feel, and the other for its beautiful b/w contrast. Nice work.
If the detail in the face was there with the eyes, this would be a more pleasing shot to me. It looks to much like you specifically blurred her face and then just masked the eyes...the coloring is good, but honestly (dont take this wrong), it looks like an amateurs try at masking. AND I KNOW you aren't an amateur :) just giving my initial reaction.
I prefer this one, DJ. It's almost like an aquatint. Timeless. One really couldn't pinpoint an era in which the little girl lived. But both are really good examples of what 'portraiture' should do, i.e. capture an essential facet of the subject (which, according tho the girls' Mum, you did). :)
The first one of Aimee is an excellent contemporary composition. It wouldn't look out of place in a catalogue such as 'Spotlight'. It 'showcases' her (and her personality) and the inclusion of the white backdrop to act as a frame all around the central figure emphasises that. The cropping and positioning of the subject in the portrait of Daisy, slightly less...'exposed' to scrutiny.... was (if it was intentional) clever. As clever as including the subtle, gentle wash of colour.
Sorry mate but I find this one pretty horrible. She looks really ill to me and the purple of her eyeliner is a little too close to bruise! I actually find it quite disturbing and much prefer the B/W one. Very unusual for me to not like your processing and as jkm says, what does it matter what I think, if the mother likes it........