First: thanks for all your comments on my last image - they were much appreciated. It's always interesting when I post something that generates some debate :)
I'm also expecting that this one might generate a fairly polarised response too. Unlike yesterday's shot, which I did like, I'm not especially happy with this one. At this stage I'd rather not say why, but will post an update after I've heard what you think.
What I will say is that Iva (the model) really liked it. As I mentioned when I posted this shot, Iva is heading to Scotland later this year to study Philosophy, Film and Visual Culture at Aberdeen University (I think). When she saw this image, and some of the other 'cage' shots, she said that they reminded her of Bentham's Panopticon. If you haven't come across the idea, the panopticon was a design for a prison: where the prisoners would could be watched at all times, but would never know when or if they were being actively observed. Bentham designed the prison in 1785 (it was never built) but the idea was later taken up by Michel Foucault as a metaphor for modern societie's ever-increasing tendency to observe and normalise behaviour.
Anyway, let me know what you think, and I'll post my thoughts either later today or tomorrow.
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comment byDan Kaufman at 12:57 PM (GMT) on 26 August, 2010
...much less "controversial" for me (however I'm not 100% with the caged metaphor)...but I love the toning, especially her face, lips, and eyes. The pp really brings (these elements) out!
comment byAnna Yanev at 01:05 PM (GMT) on 26 August, 2010
I like the image , remind it me Alica in the Wonderland. Distorted, her skinny face with these big eyes, definitely Alice!
comment byDan McNab at 01:14 PM (GMT) on 26 August, 2010
This image has some appeal to me, I love the cage and the effect the fisheye lens has on the cage. The toning of Iva's face is perfect. The two things I don't like on this shot is the effect the fisheye has on Iva's body, specifically her lower body looking distorted and abnormally small, particularly when matched with the toning that makes her lower body very discoloured. My other issue is the background clutter. I find it very distracting.
comment byDan McNab at 01:17 PM (GMT) on 26 August, 2010
One small addendum...anyone else notice that her left eye seems to be looking a different direction then her right...Probably an effect of the fisheye, but after looking at the image for a while it's kinda making Iva look a little...well...off.
comment byAdrian at 03:31 PM (GMT) on 26 August, 2010
Have to agree with Dan on this one - the processing and concept works but the deformed and shrunken waist area ruins it for me. It's great to see your different approaches and experimentation though. Respect for putting it all 'out there' :)
comment bydjib at 04:16 PM (GMT) on 26 August, 2010
I like it very much. She definitely look like a prisoner, especially due to the fact that the fisheye deformations make her look so incredibly skinny. I like the point of view.
I agree that her left eye looks a bit off.
comment byTom at 05:44 PM (GMT) on 26 August, 2010
I'm not sure what to feel about this one. It's a great picture - I love how centred she is in the cage and the effect the fisheye has to bend the bars around her, and I love the colour processing - but I also find her torso...unsettling, for want of a better word. She needs a good meal (perhaps she'll get a good deep fried dinner in Aberdeen).
comment byClaus Petersen at 06:03 PM (GMT) on 26 August, 2010
The wide angle really gives this image something extra, and the skinny girl in a cage makes her look like some starving fly caut in a metal spiderweb.
comment byKevin H. Stecyk at 06:09 PM (GMT) on 26 August, 2010
I like the photograph, though I am biased to warm colors on people as opposed to cool (blue green). I find her left cheek areas below her eye too bright. For me, it seems to erase some of her natural beauty. My prior comments, however, are minor. Overall, it is a beautiful image and I can see why she is pleased with it.
comment byChris Wray at 06:44 PM (GMT) on 26 August, 2010
The image is fab !
I'm with Dan with his comments on the body shape. It makes her look really hungry. I think I might of increased the vignette and a bit of dodge and burn to darken the surroundings left and right and keep the focus on her face.
comment byCarlos Garcia at 03:59 AM (GMT) on 27 August, 2010
Okay... this is just scary!
comment bydjn1 at 06:58 AM (GMT) on 27 August, 2010
Thanks everyone.
comment byChris at 05:17 PM (GMT) on 27 August, 2010
She evokes a ghost of Tolkein's Shelob - queen spider in her den. It's not she who is trapped - it's you! :) I love the toning (you're pretty much the master of that though, so I've come to expect it ). But the tilt - it's a subtle choice, but adds a lot to this shot.
comment byChris at 05:26 PM (GMT) on 27 August, 2010
I just (only now) discovered the "show original" function here. Brilliant. I have this suspicion that you're using PixelPost, but I'm not sure. If you are, is the Show Original a custom add-on? I'd love to check it out. :)
comment bySLRist at 07:02 PM (GMT) on 27 August, 2010
Is this shot a metaphor for people with eating disorders being trapped in their own minds? If it is, well done. If not - well, to be perfectly honest, people this skinny shouldn't really be glamourised in fashion photos. And I speak as a man who loves slim women. But there's a point where slim becomes thin, and this is past that point. Don't you have daughters?
comment bydjn1 at 09:55 PM (GMT) on 27 August, 2010
SLRist: yes, I have daughters, some of whom are only marginally younger than Iva. As for this shot: I also have my reservations about it, but I don't think it glamorises her in any way - quite the opposite.
comment by iva sakarova at 09:36 PM (GMT) on 29 August, 2010
for the record, i am actually feeding properly and taking care of my health :)
and you're right that this whole conception that models have to be terribly skinny is wrong. to tell the truth most things about modelling are wrong... but i'm not as terrifying in person
ask David :D
comment bydjn1 at 04:19 AM (GMT) on 30 August, 2010
Iva: well put. And no, you weren't in the least bit terrifying :)
comment byLightningPaul at 11:58 AM (GMT) on 31 August, 2010
Cool! I like it. Background is very nice too.
comment by Alex at 10:41 PM (GMT) on 1 September, 2010
First: thanks for all your comments on my last image - they were much appreciated. It's always interesting when I post something that generates some debate :)
I'm also expecting that this one might generate a fairly polarised response too. Unlike yesterday's shot, which I did like, I'm not especially happy with this one. At this stage I'd rather not say why, but will post an update after I've heard what you think.
What I will say is that Iva (the model) really liked it. As I mentioned when I posted this shot, Iva is heading to Scotland later this year to study Philosophy, Film and Visual Culture at Aberdeen University (I think). When she saw this image, and some of the other 'cage' shots, she said that they reminded her of Bentham's Panopticon. If you haven't come across the idea, the panopticon was a design for a prison: where the prisoners would could be watched at all times, but would never know when or if they were being actively observed. Bentham designed the prison in 1785 (it was never built) but the idea was later taken up by Michel Foucault as a metaphor for modern societie's ever-increasing tendency to observe and normalise behaviour.
Anyway, let me know what you think, and I'll post my thoughts either later today or tomorrow.
On a totally different matter ...
Stop by tomorrow for a chance to win a twelve month subscription to our Photoshop tutorials. I'll post the full details tomorrow, but will also update my Facebook and Twitter accounts when the competition goes live.
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shooting mode
exposure bias
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...much less "controversial" for me (however I'm not 100% with the caged metaphor)...but I love the toning, especially her face, lips, and eyes. The pp really brings (these elements) out!
I like the image , remind it me Alica in the Wonderland. Distorted, her skinny face with these big eyes, definitely Alice!
This image has some appeal to me, I love the cage and the effect the fisheye lens has on the cage. The toning of Iva's face is perfect. The two things I don't like on this shot is the effect the fisheye has on Iva's body, specifically her lower body looking distorted and abnormally small, particularly when matched with the toning that makes her lower body very discoloured. My other issue is the background clutter. I find it very distracting.
One small addendum...anyone else notice that her left eye seems to be looking a different direction then her right...Probably an effect of the fisheye, but after looking at the image for a while it's kinda making Iva look a little...well...off.
Have to agree with Dan on this one - the processing and concept works but the deformed and shrunken waist area ruins it for me. It's great to see your different approaches and experimentation though. Respect for putting it all 'out there' :)
I like it very much. She definitely look like a prisoner, especially due to the fact that the fisheye deformations make her look so incredibly skinny. I like the point of view.
I agree that her left eye looks a bit off.
I'm not sure what to feel about this one. It's a great picture - I love how centred she is in the cage and the effect the fisheye has to bend the bars around her, and I love the colour processing - but I also find her torso...unsettling, for want of a better word. She needs a good meal (perhaps she'll get a good deep fried dinner in Aberdeen).
The wide angle really gives this image something extra, and the skinny girl in a cage makes her look like some starving fly caut in a metal spiderweb.
I like the photograph, though I am biased to warm colors on people as opposed to cool (blue green). I find her left cheek areas below her eye too bright. For me, it seems to erase some of her natural beauty. My prior comments, however, are minor. Overall, it is a beautiful image and I can see why she is pleased with it.
The image is fab !
I'm with Dan with his comments on the body shape. It makes her look really hungry. I think I might of increased the vignette and a bit of dodge and burn to darken the surroundings left and right and keep the focus on her face.
Okay... this is just scary!
Thanks everyone.
She evokes a ghost of Tolkein's Shelob - queen spider in her den. It's not she who is trapped - it's you! :) I love the toning (you're pretty much the master of that though, so I've come to expect it ). But the tilt - it's a subtle choice, but adds a lot to this shot.
I just (only now) discovered the "show original" function here. Brilliant. I have this suspicion that you're using PixelPost, but I'm not sure. If you are, is the Show Original a custom add-on? I'd love to check it out. :)
Is this shot a metaphor for people with eating disorders being trapped in their own minds? If it is, well done. If not - well, to be perfectly honest, people this skinny shouldn't really be glamourised in fashion photos. And I speak as a man who loves slim women. But there's a point where slim becomes thin, and this is past that point. Don't you have daughters?
SLRist: yes, I have daughters, some of whom are only marginally younger than Iva. As for this shot: I also have my reservations about it, but I don't think it glamorises her in any way - quite the opposite.
for the record, i am actually feeding properly and taking care of my health :)
and you're right that this whole conception that models have to be terribly skinny is wrong. to tell the truth most things about modelling are wrong... but i'm not as terrifying in person
ask David :D
Iva: well put. And no, you weren't in the least bit terrifying :)
Cool! I like it. Background is very nice too.
Could you please give her some food.