This shot is an attempt to implement Cameron's suggestion from a couple of days ago (i.e. that I should ignore the structure that's appeared in my last two shots and focus on the rails). And it's a great idea, but I'm not convinced that this shot works all that well. I'm prepared to be persuaded otherwise, but for me there seems to be something not quite right about this one.
Perhaps it's the colour? I realised tonight that the warm golden hue to the railings of this shot was because it was a partially overcast night; i.e. the street lights from a hundred yards away were reflecting onto the rails and the moon was behind the clouds. Tonight, on the other hand, was mostly clear and the moonlight has added a much colder hue to this shot.
Anyway, let me know what you think.
Fortunately I have a much better one for tomorrow, yet another shot of this thing.
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8.54pm on 28/11/04
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comment byfrisky? at 12:04 AM (GMT) on 29 November, 2004
i think i prefered the shot from yesterday a little more. I like this one too, but I feel that the railings in the background are clashing with the railings in the foreground, if that makes sense... if there were no railings in the background this would be perfect.
however, i love the crisp blue colour of the evenings sky. beautiful.
comment byfraxinus at 12:06 AM (GMT) on 29 November, 2004
For me Dave, this is THE one. It combines the features I found so attractive in the previous handrail shot with that marvellous blue - and the moonlight and star trails add to the magic. The composition is excellent, uncluttered and sound - I'd have it on my wall!
comment byCameron at 12:12 AM (GMT) on 29 November, 2004
I like this very much too David (thanks for trying it out) ~ I tend to agree with you that the colour, the golden hues of the railing in your other shot may have added that extra 'something'. That aside I find this composition extremely pleasing to my eye...and the blue of the sky is just incredible!
comment byThinh Thang at 12:22 AM (GMT) on 29 November, 2004
I agree with fraxinus, this shot is like Yin and Yang with the railing shot from the previous day. The railing with the golden accent to it was full of radiance and fire, while this shot is calm and serene. They'd make a perfect couple. From the smooth lines of the railing, the shadow casted on the ground and the slight star trail in the background, this photo is very pleasing to look at.
I'm moving early next year, so get ready to print out some photos for me! hehe. Cheers.
comment byJason D- at 01:22 AM (GMT) on 29 November, 2004
Not a fan of this one really. It's pretty bland and the composition is lackluster. Coloring is beautiful but it's missing a central subject. The rail alone isn't strong enough with this particular composition. I would have gotten lower and closer to try and give the railing more importance.
comment byChelsea June at 01:38 AM (GMT) on 29 November, 2004
It's actually very interesting. Maybe you should collab the two photographs side by side. A cool, fresh rail and a warm toned one. Very nice photography as usual =)
comment byNancy at 04:21 AM (GMT) on 29 November, 2004
I really like this rail and am glad you went back and focused on it again. While I really love the golden hue of the first picture this one works for me as well, its cleaner. There is a nice line thing going with the stairs, rail in the background and the foreground rail. I don't know I just like it
comment by peterv at 06:24 AM (GMT) on 29 November, 2004
I have to say out of the two I prefer the other (even though the monument is a bit naf) I think it's the colour and the fact that your eye is lead across the picture by the composition.
comment byquasi at 06:47 AM (GMT) on 29 November, 2004
Ooh, we're sharply divided over this one.
I'm somewhere in the middle. On one hand, I love the pure silver of the railing against that beautiful blue. On the other hand, this shot just doesn't jump out at me. I like it, but it didn't make me ooh and ahh.
Looking forward to tomorrow's shot!
comment byAaron at 09:15 AM (GMT) on 29 November, 2004
I like the soft colors, especially that color of blue for the sky. If you're looking for suggestions ... would it be possible to position the camera low enough to capture only the main railing against the sky?
comment by Darrell Whittle at 01:57 PM (GMT) on 29 November, 2004
It's a sharp, resonably well exposed, but compositionally boring picture of some railings primarily. I actually wonder if you were attempting to show the stars and wanted some FG interest and so included the railings? I'm not clear what benefit the exposure gives otherwise. The long exposure of such a static FG subject would be justified if it could be used to anchor the movement behind it, but here the stars are just too faint to really be of much interest and the railings are still just railings IMO. Have a look at this picture (not mine i hasten to add) for an example of what i mean about using the FG effectively in these star trail pictures.
Cheers
Darrell
comment byFrank at 03:33 PM (GMT) on 29 November, 2004
I'm in the camp that finds this a dull composition, but great for a dictionary's marginal picture under "rail."
I would ask, besides "focusing on the rail," did you have other goals, and what were they?
I'm not sure I would even have chosen these rails... (The ones on the perimeter look like they have a more interesting shape to me...)
I think this photo is a great caution about an unseen photographic skill: selection.
comment byHemal Trivedi at 05:00 PM (GMT) on 29 November, 2004
the composition is too good. the clors and the shades make the picture close to life. i have not seen many pics on your site yet, but i am beginning to like this pic already :)
comment bydjn1 at 07:56 PM (GMT) on 29 November, 2004
Thanks everyone. And I think I'll side with those of you who didn't think too much of this one. I've had a day to think about it and I still don't think it works all that well.
comment byAndrew Piccone at 07:58 PM (GMT) on 29 November, 2004
Checking out your site for the first time. Nice work. Chromasia has a new fan. Keep it up!
comment byIan J at 08:05 PM (GMT) on 29 November, 2004
I echo the views of some here about prefering the shot from the previous day. I do love the blue hues to this shot though, definatly a different slant on things.
Just out of interest, what time was this shot taken?
comment by zustimmung at 09:21 PM (GMT) on 29 November, 2004
Nice shot, as always.
Offtopic:
I'm afraid, your TrackBack URL feature doesn't work properly.
comment byCameron at 10:24 PM (GMT) on 29 November, 2004
...see what you get for listening to my suggestions? At least it created a bit of debate! I still like this shot David!
;-)>
comment bynogger at 10:45 PM (GMT) on 29 November, 2004
Get them coloured gels out. :-)
I think I fall into the "prefer the other one" camp. Maybe you're getting too carried away with the idea of night shots and not thinking enough about what it is your shooting? Just a suggestion.
comment bydjn1 at 10:49 PM (GMT) on 29 November, 2004
Cameron: next time I'll either do a better job of implementing your suggestion, or I'll ignore it altogether ;-)
comment byCameron at 05:48 AM (GMT) on 30 November, 2004
This shot is an attempt to implement Cameron's suggestion from a couple of days ago (i.e. that I should ignore the structure that's appeared in my last two shots and focus on the rails). And it's a great idea, but I'm not convinced that this shot works all that well. I'm prepared to be persuaded otherwise, but for me there seems to be something not quite right about this one.
Perhaps it's the colour? I realised tonight that the warm golden hue to the railings of this shot was because it was a partially overcast night; i.e. the street lights from a hundred yards away were reflecting onto the rails and the moon was behind the clouds. Tonight, on the other hand, was mostly clear and the moonlight has added a much colder hue to this shot.
Anyway, let me know what you think.
Fortunately I have a much better one for tomorrow, yet another shot of this thing.
camera
lens
focal length
aperture
shutter speed
shooting mode
exposure bias
metering mode
ISO
flash
image quality
cropped?
Canon 20D
EF 17-40 f/4L USM
17mm (27mm equiv.)
f/8.0
4m 1s
aperture priority
+0.0
evaluative
100
no
RAW
perspective corrected
i think i prefered the shot from yesterday a little more. I like this one too, but I feel that the railings in the background are clashing with the railings in the foreground, if that makes sense... if there were no railings in the background this would be perfect.
however, i love the crisp blue colour of the evenings sky. beautiful.
For me Dave, this is THE one. It combines the features I found so attractive in the previous handrail shot with that marvellous blue - and the moonlight and star trails add to the magic. The composition is excellent, uncluttered and sound - I'd have it on my wall!
I like this very much too David (thanks for trying it out) ~ I tend to agree with you that the colour, the golden hues of the railing in your other shot may have added that extra 'something'. That aside I find this composition extremely pleasing to my eye...and the blue of the sky is just incredible!
I agree with fraxinus, this shot is like Yin and Yang with the railing shot from the previous day. The railing with the golden accent to it was full of radiance and fire, while this shot is calm and serene. They'd make a perfect couple. From the smooth lines of the railing, the shadow casted on the ground and the slight star trail in the background, this photo is very pleasing to look at.
I'm moving early next year, so get ready to print out some photos for me! hehe. Cheers.
Not a fan of this one really. It's pretty bland and the composition is lackluster. Coloring is beautiful but it's missing a central subject. The rail alone isn't strong enough with this particular composition. I would have gotten lower and closer to try and give the railing more importance.
It's actually very interesting. Maybe you should collab the two photographs side by side. A cool, fresh rail and a warm toned one. Very nice photography as usual =)
I really like this rail and am glad you went back and focused on it again. While I really love the golden hue of the first picture this one works for me as well, its cleaner. There is a nice line thing going with the stairs, rail in the background and the foreground rail. I don't know I just like it
I have to say out of the two I prefer the other (even though the monument is a bit naf) I think it's the colour and the fact that your eye is lead across the picture by the composition.
Ooh, we're sharply divided over this one.
I'm somewhere in the middle. On one hand, I love the pure silver of the railing against that beautiful blue. On the other hand, this shot just doesn't jump out at me. I like it, but it didn't make me ooh and ahh.
Looking forward to tomorrow's shot!
I like the soft colors, especially that color of blue for the sky. If you're looking for suggestions ... would it be possible to position the camera low enough to capture only the main railing against the sky?
It's a sharp, resonably well exposed, but compositionally boring picture of some railings primarily. I actually wonder if you were attempting to show the stars and wanted some FG interest and so included the railings? I'm not clear what benefit the exposure gives otherwise. The long exposure of such a static FG subject would be justified if it could be used to anchor the movement behind it, but here the stars are just too faint to really be of much interest and the railings are still just railings IMO. Have a look at this picture (not mine i hasten to add) for an example of what i mean about using the FG effectively in these star trail pictures.
Cheers
Darrell
I'm in the camp that finds this a dull composition, but great for a dictionary's marginal picture under "rail."
I would ask, besides "focusing on the rail," did you have other goals, and what were they?
I'm not sure I would even have chosen these rails... (The ones on the perimeter look like they have a more interesting shape to me...)
I think this photo is a great caution about an unseen photographic skill: selection.
the composition is too good. the clors and the shades make the picture close to life. i have not seen many pics on your site yet, but i am beginning to like this pic already :)
Thanks everyone. And I think I'll side with those of you who didn't think too much of this one. I've had a day to think about it and I still don't think it works all that well.
Checking out your site for the first time. Nice work. Chromasia has a new fan. Keep it up!
I echo the views of some here about prefering the shot from the previous day. I do love the blue hues to this shot though, definatly a different slant on things.
Just out of interest, what time was this shot taken?
Nice shot, as always.
Offtopic:
I'm afraid, your TrackBack URL feature doesn't work properly.
...see what you get for listening to my suggestions? At least it created a bit of debate! I still like this shot David!
;-)>
Get them coloured gels out. :-)
I think I fall into the "prefer the other one" camp. Maybe you're getting too carried away with the idea of night shots and not thinking enough about what it is your shooting? Just a suggestion.
Cameron: next time I'll either do a better job of implementing your suggestion, or I'll ignore it altogether ;-)
fair 'nuff too! *chuckle*