My wife's opinion of this shot, which as regular visitors will know is always a good indication as to how well a shot will be received, is somewhat less than favourable, ... but I quite like it. It's not as crisp as it could be, nor as vibrant as some of my other shots that have used this window, but I do like the contrast between the 'reality' and the 'reflection'.
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comment byPWrocker at 09:21 PM (GMT) on 26 January, 2005
Score 1st up. Well I like the sort of paralell idea. It's almost like how most others might see you, not looking specidicly but more of another blur on the street (look at the shunk one in the comment window and compare to the pic one, it's firghtening). However I do have some problems. It is very similar to the one taken previously where you had the discussion about people in pictures for sale. By doing this I think you limit what you can actually do with your camera, almost like a hinderence having the mirror/redflection. I just think you could have found a better shot. Just some food for thought. Thanks for the daily photo therapy.
comment byAdriana at 09:44 PM (GMT) on 26 January, 2005
Well it seems that the window has become a peoples pictures soruce just like "The malecon" in Mexico to us :p. After seeing this window a few times. I wonder..... is it from a store or something?
comment byojorojo at 11:03 PM (GMT) on 26 January, 2005
Once again I agree with your wife. The picture lacks impact. Regards.
comment bydjn1 at 11:23 PM (GMT) on 26 January, 2005
Ok, I confess, this isn't anything overly special. What I liked about it, and this small point doesn't really compensate for the image's lack of impact, is the contrast between the guy's reflection – almost a stereotypical 50s rocker (sideburns, leather jacket, slicked back hair) – and the reality of his slight bald patch that's not visible in the reflection. I guess I just like the juxtaposition of the reflection and the reality.
All that said, I'll try and avoid this window for a while ;-)
comment by Vahid at 11:51 PM (GMT) on 26 January, 2005
One other thing, except for the guy's slight bald patch, which caught my attention, is the distance between the guy and the girl. In the reflection, you clearly see the distance between them but in the reality it seems like they are on one line or very close to each other because of the vague seperation line between their coats.
comment byRick Burns at 12:35 AM (GMT) on 27 January, 2005
I enjoy the man/woman on the street candid photos...and the dimension that the reflections add. Would be much less interesting if they were passing a generic wall. Avoid if necessary, for awhile, but please take us back there sometime in the future.
comment byJosh H. at 01:14 AM (GMT) on 27 January, 2005
I'm new to your site as of this week and just wanted to say I thoroughly enjoy it. I receive my new Nikon D70 via UPS tomorrow and hope to use some insight I've gained from your gallery as I begin to learn (play?) with it.
I look forward to future work from you.
Kind Regards,
--Josh in Kansas City
comment bynathan at 01:57 AM (GMT) on 27 January, 2005
vanity...?
comment by phil at 03:19 AM (GMT) on 27 January, 2005
i also tend to agree with your wife, this shot lacks both impact and contrast. the people seem like they are out of focus a little and the emotions of the people are pale. i understand that these are not actors, but maybe if you waited until a more 'vibrant' person came by then you could take their photograph. the reflection also lack detail but i like it that you cant make out the photographer in this image since it appears that this shot isn't angled much. try having a higher contrast and a slower shutter speed could make some cool effect, esp. in the reflection. a flash could also make a cool shadow, even though you would have the reflection of the flash problem.
comment by martini at 03:20 AM (GMT) on 27 January, 2005
on a side note, does the title mean anything?
comment bydjn1 at 03:26 AM (GMT) on 27 January, 2005
Thanks everyone.
martini: the title is a reference to what might be in his head rather than mine.
comment by peterv at 06:25 AM (GMT) on 27 January, 2005
Would it be more vibrant with a tighter crop and/or conversion to monochrome like yesterday's? That might bring out her dour expression. None of the shots you've taken in this window have featured people looking less than bleak! Or is that the way life is like in Blackpool in the winter?
comment byRainKing at 11:00 AM (GMT) on 27 January, 2005
What I find interesting, or appealing, or whatnot here, is not the guy, but the woman. With the guy you know the reflection is his, but with the woman it's different. It's as if they could be two different people. Or maybe it's just me...
I'm not sure, but maybe this could have worked in black and white, because if there's something that I'm not crazy about it's the sort of pastel feel about the colors. Dunno, just a thought. :)
comment by John Morales at 01:19 PM (GMT) on 27 January, 2005
not every shot has to have impact. the "lack" of visual impact can make a shot more interesting.
i find this to be a very interesting image, but it requires reflection (pun intended) to see the interplay between the figures and their reflection. they seem to be a couple not communicating with each other, yet their reflection reveals the truth that they are just strangers that happen to be in close proximity to each other.
as photographers, we want every image to be BAM! and POW! but i find that the introspective shots reveal more character and thought of a person's work.
comment by mariann at 02:49 PM (GMT) on 27 January, 2005
is it my monitor or is there a vertical line bisecting the photo about 470 pixels from the left edge? is it supposed to be there? it looks like a digital artifact.
i like the story this picture tells. but, i find the boundary between the white and black jackets in the foreground distracting. i keep trying to figure out who is in front and who is behind.
comment bypicturegrl at 04:44 PM (GMT) on 27 January, 2005
I don't think this photograph is as strong as the one you shot of the same subject matter Jan. 17, but I like this one anyway for the same reason that I liked that one. I think you have captured something about relationships that no one really wants to see or admit, the inner world that is always there but we try so hard to hide. The way the couple is looking in different directions creates a sense of tension, a sense of disconnect between them. He's looking at himself while she's staring straight ahead with somewhat of a fiercely determined if not absolutely miserable expression. This isn't really the way we want to see love. Advertisements tell us that he should have his arm around her, they should be laughing and talking as they walk down the street together. But real life isn't like that. And even though this may not be one of your better photographs, I think you captured something very real.
Does anyone get suspicious with you hanging around this wall frequently :-) The reflection is well captured, but it doesn't seem to tell a story, other than "hey, I can see my reflection"...
comment byRick Burns at 05:36 PM (GMT) on 27 January, 2005
For me this is such a "vibrant moment"... my story is there is so much more going on than what's for lunch. Are they a couple? My experience, I feel like a voyeur on these individuals’ time and place.
comment by taylan at 06:30 PM (GMT) on 27 January, 2005
one thing i consider to be important about reflections is the expectation of symmetry they create on the viewer's side. this image foils that expectation in a wonderful way. on the flat foreground i see two bodies with boundaries overlapping because of the 3D to 2D projection that we call "photograph". reflection reveals this compression of space by showing how apart they actually are, although its claim to reality is diminished by the blur. i think it would be unjust to compare this shot with the ones taken using the same window. although it shares certain building blocks with the previous ones, it is a completely different picture and certainly not a part of a series. i would consider it to be a subtle reflection on the medium itself, without an aesthetic/narrative overload.
comment bynogger at 11:26 PM (GMT) on 27 January, 2005
I wasn't going to say anything but I changed my mind. :-)
One thing that strikes me as "odd" is the false sense of closeness of the woman due, I think, to her white coat - makes here seem closer to the camera than she really is. She almost looks to be closer at first glance than the guy.
Then the reflection just throws you out and makes you go, "Huh?". And so you instantly feel there's something wrong with the image. At least, that's what I feel about it.
comment byDaniel at 08:07 AM (GMT) on 31 January, 2005
I like this. You've captured a great moment of the guy checking himself out. Perhaps the wall needs this sign.
comment by Scott at 02:44 AM (GMT) on 8 February, 2005
The guys thoughts "Who in the heck is that with a camera pointed at me? I sure hope hes not photoblogging my face onto the net for thousands of people to gawk at."
Joking aside, I really do hope people take the time to get permission to post photos of other people online before doing it. Its rather rude to do it without permission.
My wife's opinion of this shot, which as regular visitors will know is always a good indication as to how well a shot will be received, is somewhat less than favourable, ... but I quite like it. It's not as crisp as it could be, nor as vibrant as some of my other shots that have used this window, but I do like the contrast between the 'reality' and the 'reflection'.
camera
lens
focal length
aperture
shutter speed
shooting mode
exposure bias
metering mode
ISO
flash
image quality
RAW converter
cropped?
Canon 20D
EF 70-200 f/4L USM
200mm (320mm equiv.)
f/5.6
1/200
aperture priority
+0.0
evaluative
400
no
RAW
C1 Pro
no
Score 1st up. Well I like the sort of paralell idea. It's almost like how most others might see you, not looking specidicly but more of another blur on the street (look at the shunk one in the comment window and compare to the pic one, it's firghtening). However I do have some problems. It is very similar to the one taken previously where you had the discussion about people in pictures for sale. By doing this I think you limit what you can actually do with your camera, almost like a hinderence having the mirror/redflection. I just think you could have found a better shot. Just some food for thought. Thanks for the daily photo therapy.
Well it seems that the window has become a peoples pictures soruce just like "The malecon" in Mexico to us :p. After seeing this window a few times. I wonder..... is it from a store or something?
Once again I agree with your wife. The picture lacks impact. Regards.
Ok, I confess, this isn't anything overly special. What I liked about it, and this small point doesn't really compensate for the image's lack of impact, is the contrast between the guy's reflection – almost a stereotypical 50s rocker (sideburns, leather jacket, slicked back hair) – and the reality of his slight bald patch that's not visible in the reflection. I guess I just like the juxtaposition of the reflection and the reality.
All that said, I'll try and avoid this window for a while ;-)
One other thing, except for the guy's slight bald patch, which caught my attention, is the distance between the guy and the girl. In the reflection, you clearly see the distance between them but in the reality it seems like they are on one line or very close to each other because of the vague seperation line between their coats.
I enjoy the man/woman on the street candid photos...and the dimension that the reflections add. Would be much less interesting if they were passing a generic wall. Avoid if necessary, for awhile, but please take us back there sometime in the future.
I'm new to your site as of this week and just wanted to say I thoroughly enjoy it. I receive my new Nikon D70 via UPS tomorrow and hope to use some insight I've gained from your gallery as I begin to learn (play?) with it.
I look forward to future work from you.
Kind Regards,
--Josh in Kansas City
vanity...?
i also tend to agree with your wife, this shot lacks both impact and contrast. the people seem like they are out of focus a little and the emotions of the people are pale. i understand that these are not actors, but maybe if you waited until a more 'vibrant' person came by then you could take their photograph. the reflection also lack detail but i like it that you cant make out the photographer in this image since it appears that this shot isn't angled much. try having a higher contrast and a slower shutter speed could make some cool effect, esp. in the reflection. a flash could also make a cool shadow, even though you would have the reflection of the flash problem.
on a side note, does the title mean anything?
Thanks everyone.
martini: the title is a reference to what might be in his head rather than mine.
Would it be more vibrant with a tighter crop and/or conversion to monochrome like yesterday's? That might bring out her dour expression. None of the shots you've taken in this window have featured people looking less than bleak! Or is that the way life is like in Blackpool in the winter?
What I find interesting, or appealing, or whatnot here, is not the guy, but the woman. With the guy you know the reflection is his, but with the woman it's different. It's as if they could be two different people. Or maybe it's just me...
I'm not sure, but maybe this could have worked in black and white, because if there's something that I'm not crazy about it's the sort of pastel feel about the colors. Dunno, just a thought. :)
not every shot has to have impact. the "lack" of visual impact can make a shot more interesting.
i find this to be a very interesting image, but it requires reflection (pun intended) to see the interplay between the figures and their reflection. they seem to be a couple not communicating with each other, yet their reflection reveals the truth that they are just strangers that happen to be in close proximity to each other.
as photographers, we want every image to be BAM! and POW! but i find that the introspective shots reveal more character and thought of a person's work.
is it my monitor or is there a vertical line bisecting the photo about 470 pixels from the left edge? is it supposed to be there? it looks like a digital artifact.
i like the story this picture tells. but, i find the boundary between the white and black jackets in the foreground distracting. i keep trying to figure out who is in front and who is behind.
I don't think this photograph is as strong as the one you shot of the same subject matter Jan. 17, but I like this one anyway for the same reason that I liked that one. I think you have captured something about relationships that no one really wants to see or admit, the inner world that is always there but we try so hard to hide. The way the couple is looking in different directions creates a sense of tension, a sense of disconnect between them. He's looking at himself while she's staring straight ahead with somewhat of a fiercely determined if not absolutely miserable expression. This isn't really the way we want to see love. Advertisements tell us that he should have his arm around her, they should be laughing and talking as they walk down the street together. But real life isn't like that. And even though this may not be one of your better photographs, I think you captured something very real.
Does anyone get suspicious with you hanging around this wall frequently :-) The reflection is well captured, but it doesn't seem to tell a story, other than "hey, I can see my reflection"...
For me this is such a "vibrant moment"... my story is there is so much more going on than what's for lunch. Are they a couple? My experience, I feel like a voyeur on these individuals’ time and place.
one thing i consider to be important about reflections is the expectation of symmetry they create on the viewer's side. this image foils that expectation in a wonderful way. on the flat foreground i see two bodies with boundaries overlapping because of the 3D to 2D projection that we call "photograph". reflection reveals this compression of space by showing how apart they actually are, although its claim to reality is diminished by the blur. i think it would be unjust to compare this shot with the ones taken using the same window. although it shares certain building blocks with the previous ones, it is a completely different picture and certainly not a part of a series. i would consider it to be a subtle reflection on the medium itself, without an aesthetic/narrative overload.
I wasn't going to say anything but I changed my mind. :-)
One thing that strikes me as "odd" is the false sense of closeness of the woman due, I think, to her white coat - makes here seem closer to the camera than she really is. She almost looks to be closer at first glance than the guy.
Then the reflection just throws you out and makes you go, "Huh?". And so you instantly feel there's something wrong with the image. At least, that's what I feel about it.
I like this. You've captured a great moment of the guy checking himself out. Perhaps the wall needs this sign.
The guys thoughts "Who in the heck is that with a camera pointed at me? I sure hope hes not photoblogging my face onto the net for thousands of people to gawk at."
Joking aside, I really do hope people take the time to get permission to post photos of other people online before doing it. Its rather rude to do it without permission.