First of all, thanks for all the comments on my entries that went up while I was away. I haven't had time to read them all yet, but I'll get to them at some point over the next day or so.
What I did notice was that a couple of people asked me for a bit more information about the exhibition, specifically which pictures of mine were used. There were two: light rain and light rain revisited, both of which went up on chromasia last October. And I have to say that it was great to see them on display. The exhibition was at Westbourne Studios, Notting Hill, and the images are framed (put up around the bar area) and projected onto one of the larger walls; hence this shot. And I know it's a bit self-congratulatory to put up a photograph of one of my own photographs but it's the first exhibition I've been involved with and I'm determined to make the most of it ;-)
As for this shot: the bar was divided from the main seating area by a set of folding glass doors which were folded back against one another. It's these that the rightmost two-thirds of this shot were taken through. As for post-processing: nothing much has been done to this shot other than an increase in contrast and some noise reduction.
Update: on posting this one I decided that there was something about the colours that just didn't work for me, so I've posted a colourised version instead. The original version can be seen here. Let me know which one you prefer.
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comment byThe Gorilla at 09:05 PM (GMT) on 14 February, 2005
I love how all of the reflections, patterns, projections and light come together in a collage of color and texture. Great image!
comment bymoscon at 09:07 PM (GMT) on 14 February, 2005
Nice, and congrats again on the exhibition!
comment byAegir at 10:07 PM (GMT) on 14 February, 2005
I like the colour one, but I see what I think is the problem. The bit on the left is clear and straighforward, but doesn't live up to its star billing as the clearest thing in the picture - it's all a bit magnolia. I'd probably just crop it out, but I love cropping pictures anyway...
comment byFellow Eskimo at 10:21 PM (GMT) on 14 February, 2005
I prefer the first one you posted. The color one is still very pretty...but the many colors right there is very distracting. Congrats on your photos being show, its well deserved from what I've seen.
comment bydjn1 at 11:03 PM (GMT) on 14 February, 2005
Aegir: the 'problem', if it is one, is that I didn't like the contrast between the orange/red bars in the foreground and the green/blues of the background - they seemed to clash.
comment bynogger at 11:16 PM (GMT) on 14 February, 2005
I'm not really keen on either of them (Ooooo! Controversial!) but I think I prefer the colourised one. The foreground set of verticals are too distracting in the colour version.
For me, the real area of interest is all in the left half of the frame.
comment by m at 11:51 PM (GMT) on 14 February, 2005
Tough choice, I think the colour one wins, but I'm biased as you already know ;-)
Nice and big - cool. When is it on till ?
comment bydjn1 at 11:58 PM (GMT) on 14 February, 2005
nogger: lol ;-)
m: it's on till the 31st March.
comment byJorge Lesmes at 12:39 AM (GMT) on 15 February, 2005
This version looks better than the coloured one. By the way the two are amazing...
comment byfrisky? at 01:02 AM (GMT) on 15 February, 2005
thank you for not posting a shot with a valentine's day theme. :-)
comment bydjn1 at 01:06 AM (GMT) on 15 February, 2005
frisky?: lol :-)
comment byCameron M. Smith at 02:37 AM (GMT) on 15 February, 2005
congratulations on your exhibit. this photo is beautiful, the color and tone are so peaceful amongst such a busy atmosphere. great shot!
comment bypeter borbely at 03:54 AM (GMT) on 15 February, 2005
Hi
It is very difficult to write my initial comment and be very critical, given that 1, we don’t know each other 2, I appreciate and like your work a lot. However as today’s entry I’d have posted the colour version as opposed to the colorized version because that one is much less illegible and even if more aesthetical, that is strictly a secondary point to choose by between the 2 pics. We must not forget about the fact, that every photo carries a certain amount of information or message. This message must be understood when you look at the picture and you must be able to navigate through its content.
I found it very hard to recognize the main subject on the posted version, while the colour version was easy to read and find the projection on the wall.
I hope that my English did not block me to say what I meant.
I’d like to congratulate you for your show as well and if another word counts: just keep going…
Best regards, peter
comment bymiklos at 04:37 AM (GMT) on 15 February, 2005
Man, I do hate to be the black sheep here, but I think I agree with nogger. Neither shots really do it for me..
In my opinion, you could've chosen a much better approach at representing what I think you tried to achieve with this shot. It does have the chromasia aspect to it though, in the sense that at first glance you always have to try to guess 'what the hell is this?", and the fact that it feels overly photoshopped :)
Nonetheless, it really is a great achievement to get your stuff publically displayed, and of that, I'm quite envious. Give praise where praise is due... Now only if everyone could live by that...
I kind of have to agree with Peter and Miklos on this one. It feels like sometimes you take a shot with the mindset that you can 'fix' it in Photoshop later. Obviously you've posted some amazing images in the past and you really know how to work your composition, DoF, etc., but it doesn't feel like that here. Even the color version is heavily Photoshopped... Sometimes I feel like you should post a straight out of the camera and PS versions to see what you originally had planned. But as mentioned, congrats on your exhibit. Very cool.
comment by jen-marie at 04:44 AM (GMT) on 15 February, 2005
beautiful photo. It has such personality.
comment byOrthodox at 06:53 AM (GMT) on 15 February, 2005
I don't know why this photo seems very misterious to me...
comment bydjn1 at 07:23 AM (GMT) on 15 February, 2005
OK, not a great success then ;-)
Jessyel: as for posting original shots. Yes, sometimes this would probably be useful, but not in this case. This was shot at 1/20s, in a dark room, at ISO 1600, and the original is very flat. I think the problem with this shot is that there just wasn't sufficient DoF to get the front-most edges of the glass doors in focus, and for me this is why the colour version doesn't work. This version is a bit better, but as peter points out, it's difficult to read.
miklos: as for Photoshop: I don't personally think that a shot can be overly Photoshopped, but I do think it can be done well and it can be done badly ;-)
comment byCameron Smith at 07:24 AM (GMT) on 15 February, 2005
i love the orginal color version, definitely better than this one IMO. :)
comment by tobias at 08:19 AM (GMT) on 15 February, 2005
Colour for me too. More context although the hue on the other is nice. I only realised it was your photo's on the wall via the colour image and if you're gonna show your work you may as well make it obvious ;)
comment byAegir at 08:49 AM (GMT) on 15 February, 2005
Ah... I rather liked the way the orange worked with the green. :)
comment byStephanos at 11:06 AM (GMT) on 15 February, 2005
I think that in the color version the viewer's attention is attracted to the leftmost 1/3 of the picture, which is however not particularly interesting and "outside the main theme/atmosphere" of what you are trying to convey.
I also think that cropping it out, as suggested above, would not work, as it would disturb the balance of the two sets of vertical glass edges.
In the "sepia" colorized version this problem is alleviated, as the difference between the left 1/3 and the rest of the picture is reduced.
So overall I think it was a good idea to do it.
I also see the point about the edges being out of focus giving the impression that there is something "wrong" or imperfect in the color version, which is also reduced in the colorized one.
Congrats on your work (I just browsed through many of your pictures for the first time). In all honesty, however, I wouldn't consider this as one of your best pictures.
If you ever have 5 minutes to spare you can take a look at some of my (mediocre) stuff at:
http://istlab.dmst.aueb.gr/~path/photos/index.html
and drop me a line with your comments.
comment by Mattp at 11:08 AM (GMT) on 15 February, 2005
I find the rather dull area on the left of the original colour version really detracted from the colours in the rest of the shot - but with that removed the colour version has much more 'pop' than the colourised one you have settled on.
Now, just to be anal, is it me, or are they projecting the picture you've called 'Light Rain' according to the link above, but they have titled it 'Light Rain Revisted'? I clearly have too much time on my hands :-)
comment by SteveO at 12:47 PM (GMT) on 15 February, 2005
Congratulations about having your work displayed, nice one i would probably take a photo of my stuff too if that happened.
I definitely like this version better than the original, the bit on the left is a bit magnolia like and clashes with the rest of the image, the orange bars were a bit distracting too. Good choice.
comment bydjn1 at 01:14 PM (GMT) on 15 February, 2005
Mattp: you're quite right, the picture is incorrectly titled.
comment by Mattp at 02:21 PM (GMT) on 15 February, 2005
Do I win a prize LOL!
Congratulations on being exhibited though -had I been in London I would have come along, but I'm afraid you picked a weekend I was down in the country visiting family. Hope to catch the next one.
comment byThe Gorilla at 03:05 PM (GMT) on 15 February, 2005
I like the full color version better. It was the variety of green hues that drew me to the original.
comment by isolated at 09:18 PM (GMT) on 15 February, 2005
Now that you are back, can you comment about the angle on the picture of the railroad tracks?
comment bydjn1 at 09:37 PM (GMT) on 15 February, 2005
On the whole then this wasn't one of my most popular shots ;-)
isolated: yes, I'll leave a comment on that image.
comment byTara H. at 11:03 PM (GMT) on 15 February, 2005
Wow, this is nice.
comment byAmber at 02:10 AM (GMT) on 24 February, 2005
I like both versions. Probably leaning towards the colored version.
First of all, thanks for all the comments on my entries that went up while I was away. I haven't had time to read them all yet, but I'll get to them at some point over the next day or so.
What I did notice was that a couple of people asked me for a bit more information about the exhibition, specifically which pictures of mine were used. There were two: light rain and light rain revisited, both of which went up on chromasia last October. And I have to say that it was great to see them on display. The exhibition was at Westbourne Studios, Notting Hill, and the images are framed (put up around the bar area) and projected onto one of the larger walls; hence this shot. And I know it's a bit self-congratulatory to put up a photograph of one of my own photographs but it's the first exhibition I've been involved with and I'm determined to make the most of it ;-)
As for this shot: the bar was divided from the main seating area by a set of folding glass doors which were folded back against one another. It's these that the rightmost two-thirds of this shot were taken through. As for post-processing: nothing much has been done to this shot other than an increase in contrast and some noise reduction.
Update: on posting this one I decided that there was something about the colours that just didn't work for me, so I've posted a colourised version instead. The original version can be seen here. Let me know which one you prefer.
camera
lens
focal length
aperture
shutter speed
shooting mode
exposure bias
metering mode
ISO
flash
image quality
RAW converter
cropped?
Canon 20D
EF 17-40 f/4L USM
40mm (64mm equiv.)
f/4.0
1/20
aperture priority
+0.0
evaluative
1600
no
RAW
C1 Pro
minor distortion
I love how all of the reflections, patterns, projections and light come together in a collage of color and texture. Great image!
Nice, and congrats again on the exhibition!
I like the colour one, but I see what I think is the problem. The bit on the left is clear and straighforward, but doesn't live up to its star billing as the clearest thing in the picture - it's all a bit magnolia. I'd probably just crop it out, but I love cropping pictures anyway...
I prefer the first one you posted. The color one is still very pretty...but the many colors right there is very distracting. Congrats on your photos being show, its well deserved from what I've seen.
Aegir: the 'problem', if it is one, is that I didn't like the contrast between the orange/red bars in the foreground and the green/blues of the background - they seemed to clash.
I'm not really keen on either of them (Ooooo! Controversial!) but I think I prefer the colourised one. The foreground set of verticals are too distracting in the colour version.
For me, the real area of interest is all in the left half of the frame.
Tough choice, I think the colour one wins, but I'm biased as you already know ;-)
Nice and big - cool. When is it on till ?
nogger: lol ;-)
m: it's on till the 31st March.
This version looks better than the coloured one. By the way the two are amazing...
thank you for not posting a shot with a valentine's day theme. :-)
frisky?: lol :-)
congratulations on your exhibit. this photo is beautiful, the color and tone are so peaceful amongst such a busy atmosphere. great shot!
Hi
It is very difficult to write my initial comment and be very critical, given that 1, we don’t know each other 2, I appreciate and like your work a lot. However as today’s entry I’d have posted the colour version as opposed to the colorized version because that one is much less illegible and even if more aesthetical, that is strictly a secondary point to choose by between the 2 pics. We must not forget about the fact, that every photo carries a certain amount of information or message. This message must be understood when you look at the picture and you must be able to navigate through its content.
I found it very hard to recognize the main subject on the posted version, while the colour version was easy to read and find the projection on the wall.
I hope that my English did not block me to say what I meant.
I’d like to congratulate you for your show as well and if another word counts: just keep going…
Best regards, peter
Man, I do hate to be the black sheep here, but I think I agree with nogger. Neither shots really do it for me..
In my opinion, you could've chosen a much better approach at representing what I think you tried to achieve with this shot. It does have the chromasia aspect to it though, in the sense that at first glance you always have to try to guess 'what the hell is this?", and the fact that it feels overly photoshopped :)
Nonetheless, it really is a great achievement to get your stuff publically displayed, and of that, I'm quite envious. Give praise where praise is due... Now only if everyone could live by that...
I kind of have to agree with Peter and Miklos on this one. It feels like sometimes you take a shot with the mindset that you can 'fix' it in Photoshop later. Obviously you've posted some amazing images in the past and you really know how to work your composition, DoF, etc., but it doesn't feel like that here. Even the color version is heavily Photoshopped... Sometimes I feel like you should post a straight out of the camera and PS versions to see what you originally had planned. But as mentioned, congrats on your exhibit. Very cool.
beautiful photo. It has such personality.
I don't know why this photo seems very misterious to me...
OK, not a great success then ;-)
Jessyel: as for posting original shots. Yes, sometimes this would probably be useful, but not in this case. This was shot at 1/20s, in a dark room, at ISO 1600, and the original is very flat. I think the problem with this shot is that there just wasn't sufficient DoF to get the front-most edges of the glass doors in focus, and for me this is why the colour version doesn't work. This version is a bit better, but as peter points out, it's difficult to read.
miklos: as for Photoshop: I don't personally think that a shot can be overly Photoshopped, but I do think it can be done well and it can be done badly ;-)
i love the orginal color version, definitely better than this one IMO. :)
Colour for me too. More context although the hue on the other is nice. I only realised it was your photo's on the wall via the colour image and if you're gonna show your work you may as well make it obvious ;)
Ah... I rather liked the way the orange worked with the green. :)
I think that in the color version the viewer's attention is attracted to the leftmost 1/3 of the picture, which is however not particularly interesting and "outside the main theme/atmosphere" of what you are trying to convey.
I also think that cropping it out, as suggested above, would not work, as it would disturb the balance of the two sets of vertical glass edges.
In the "sepia" colorized version this problem is alleviated, as the difference between the left 1/3 and the rest of the picture is reduced.
So overall I think it was a good idea to do it.
I also see the point about the edges being out of focus giving the impression that there is something "wrong" or imperfect in the color version, which is also reduced in the colorized one.
Congrats on your work (I just browsed through many of your pictures for the first time). In all honesty, however, I wouldn't consider this as one of your best pictures.
If you ever have 5 minutes to spare you can take a look at some of my (mediocre) stuff at:
http://istlab.dmst.aueb.gr/~path/photos/index.html
and drop me a line with your comments.
I find the rather dull area on the left of the original colour version really detracted from the colours in the rest of the shot - but with that removed the colour version has much more 'pop' than the colourised one you have settled on.
Now, just to be anal, is it me, or are they projecting the picture you've called 'Light Rain' according to the link above, but they have titled it 'Light Rain Revisted'? I clearly have too much time on my hands :-)
Congratulations about having your work displayed, nice one i would probably take a photo of my stuff too if that happened.
I definitely like this version better than the original, the bit on the left is a bit magnolia like and clashes with the rest of the image, the orange bars were a bit distracting too. Good choice.
Mattp: you're quite right, the picture is incorrectly titled.
Do I win a prize LOL!
Congratulations on being exhibited though -had I been in London I would have come along, but I'm afraid you picked a weekend I was down in the country visiting family. Hope to catch the next one.
I like the full color version better. It was the variety of green hues that drew me to the original.
Now that you are back, can you comment about the angle on the picture of the railroad tracks?
On the whole then this wasn't one of my most popular shots ;-)
isolated: yes, I'll leave a comment on that image.
Wow, this is nice.
I like both versions. Probably leaning towards the colored version.