I took this the weekend before last but haven't put it up until now as I'm not entirely convinced it works at this resolution. As a full-res' image it looks great, but at this size it looks a bit confused. Anyway, as I failed to take anything worth putting up today this will have to do.
capture date camera lens focal length aperture shutter speed shooting mode exposure bias metering mode ISO flash image quality RAW converter cropped?
6.45pm on 13/2/05
Canon 20D
EF 17-40 f/4L USM
17mm (27mm equiv.)
f/4.0
1/15
aperture priority
+0.0
evaluative
800
no
RAW
DxO Optics Pro
perspective corrected
comment by Sharla at 11:29 PM (GMT) on 24 February, 2005
My first thoughts were "nicely composed, interesting lighted window pattern across the top, interesting subject ... awfully busy." I suspect, as you suggest, it would be a little easier to study if it were much bigger.
What to do?
I'll wait until a nice big print is hanging in a museum and drop by for an inspection.
comment byBeth at 11:44 PM (GMT) on 24 February, 2005
It does look busy, but still very breathtaking... it has quite an ancient feel to it.
comment byJorge Lesmes at 11:48 PM (GMT) on 24 February, 2005
Lots of things to check out, but as always awesome.
comment by ellehm at 11:53 PM (GMT) on 24 February, 2005
I find it not exactlly confused but interesting, I like the colors, the illumination and the place it self.. I wonder what it is .. I think is a very good shot
comment byFellow Eskimo at 12:50 AM (GMT) on 25 February, 2005
Nice colors...the left side seems 'heavier' than the right side, kinda throwing it off balence. But I like the actual front of the building, along with the stairs. But the background is so busy!
comment byfernando at 01:15 AM (GMT) on 25 February, 2005
too bad we can't zoom in on this one, there's a lot to look at
comment byMexipickle at 03:27 AM (GMT) on 25 February, 2005
I've noticed lately that a lot of your shots have been at 800 or higher ISO. On the web they still look crisp. Are you using a tripod too? I guess that's a testament to your equipment, in this case the 20D.
comment byeast3rd at 04:36 AM (GMT) on 25 February, 2005
Wonderful exposure and tones, but I agree with the others that it's too busy. Subject matter is great though. If you ever go back there again, maybe try for some abstract closeups, and really focus in on some areas.
comment byOrthodox at 05:52 AM (GMT) on 25 February, 2005
Impressive symmetry. good job!
comment byKenny at 06:26 AM (GMT) on 25 February, 2005
WOW!
comment bymiles at 07:41 AM (GMT) on 25 February, 2005
I don't think it's confusing because you focus on the shapes and lines rather than the details.
comment byAegir at 07:59 AM (GMT) on 25 February, 2005
I bet it looks great full size - it's one of those shots you want to see in maximum detail so you can immerse yourself in it, lose yourself in the detail.
Shame it was a Sunday, you could have gone in and got a closer shot of those horse statues...
comment byAdriana at 08:35 AM (GMT) on 25 February, 2005
I always want to know how do you manage to get those tones. I really like the sensation of a metal with these colors. The structure of the building looks quite complicated, but nice. I guess that, as you said the resolution is not helping that much.
comment by Deb at 08:35 AM (GMT) on 25 February, 2005
Like it Dave. Kind of Gothic and skeletal. Very theatrical too. Reminds me of a Berkoff stage set. The lighting is wonderful.
comment by Jorge at 11:52 AM (GMT) on 25 February, 2005
I love how the top of building disappears into the dark.
comment by Sharla at 04:22 PM (GMT) on 25 February, 2005
There are aspects of this shot that I really like. I deciced to actually print it instead of just relying on the monitor.
I had appreciated how you had managed to hold the highlights as well as you did but I was bothered by the mottled zones across the center, which I assumed couldn't be helped.
The print is much, much better than the monitor version, more even across the middle, more appreciable detail. The busyness works much better and I'm sure is what initially drew you to the scene. Like they always say, "Never judge a photo by its monitor version."
comment byTom B at 04:40 PM (GMT) on 25 February, 2005
Very nice David. It does seem a bit busy but it also works very well. I like the overall feeling of 'grandness' as well as the lighting pattern and tone which really makes the photo work for me.
comment bybtezra at 07:56 PM (GMT) on 25 February, 2005
~tough lighting to battle here...the expanse of this structure is eye-catching~
comment bydjn1 at 09:59 PM (GMT) on 25 February, 2005
Thanks everyone.
Mexipickle: this was handheld, and while I did run it through Neat Image it was surprisingly clean in the first place.
Adriana: the tones, in this case, were achieved by adding a Hue/Saturation adjustment layer to desaturate the image then a Curves adjustment to boost the midtones in the green channel (a bit), the same for the red channel (but about twice as much as for the green channel), and a decrease in the midtones for the blue channel (approximately equal to the amount the red channel was boosted).
Sharla: I haven't tried printing this one, but the full-res' screen version did look much better. This shot is all about the detail, and not enough of that comes across at this size.
I took this the weekend before last but haven't put it up until now as I'm not entirely convinced it works at this resolution. As a full-res' image it looks great, but at this size it looks a bit confused. Anyway, as I failed to take anything worth putting up today this will have to do.
camera
lens
focal length
aperture
shutter speed
shooting mode
exposure bias
metering mode
ISO
flash
image quality
RAW converter
cropped?
Canon 20D
EF 17-40 f/4L USM
17mm (27mm equiv.)
f/4.0
1/15
aperture priority
+0.0
evaluative
800
no
RAW
DxO Optics Pro
perspective corrected
My first thoughts were "nicely composed, interesting lighted window pattern across the top, interesting subject ... awfully busy." I suspect, as you suggest, it would be a little easier to study if it were much bigger.
What to do?
I'll wait until a nice big print is hanging in a museum and drop by for an inspection.
It does look busy, but still very breathtaking... it has quite an ancient feel to it.
Lots of things to check out, but as always awesome.
I find it not exactlly confused but interesting, I like the colors, the illumination and the place it self.. I wonder what it is .. I think is a very good shot
Nice colors...the left side seems 'heavier' than the right side, kinda throwing it off balence. But I like the actual front of the building, along with the stairs. But the background is so busy!
too bad we can't zoom in on this one, there's a lot to look at
I've noticed lately that a lot of your shots have been at 800 or higher ISO. On the web they still look crisp. Are you using a tripod too? I guess that's a testament to your equipment, in this case the 20D.
Wonderful exposure and tones, but I agree with the others that it's too busy. Subject matter is great though. If you ever go back there again, maybe try for some abstract closeups, and really focus in on some areas.
Impressive symmetry. good job!
WOW!
I don't think it's confusing because you focus on the shapes and lines rather than the details.
I bet it looks great full size - it's one of those shots you want to see in maximum detail so you can immerse yourself in it, lose yourself in the detail.
Shame it was a Sunday, you could have gone in and got a closer shot of those horse statues...
I always want to know how do you manage to get those tones. I really like the sensation of a metal with these colors. The structure of the building looks quite complicated, but nice. I guess that, as you said the resolution is not helping that much.
Like it Dave. Kind of Gothic and skeletal. Very theatrical too. Reminds me of a Berkoff stage set. The lighting is wonderful.
I love how the top of building disappears into the dark.
There are aspects of this shot that I really like. I deciced to actually print it instead of just relying on the monitor.
I had appreciated how you had managed to hold the highlights as well as you did but I was bothered by the mottled zones across the center, which I assumed couldn't be helped.
The print is much, much better than the monitor version, more even across the middle, more appreciable detail. The busyness works much better and I'm sure is what initially drew you to the scene. Like they always say, "Never judge a photo by its monitor version."
Very nice David. It does seem a bit busy but it also works very well. I like the overall feeling of 'grandness' as well as the lighting pattern and tone which really makes the photo work for me.
~tough lighting to battle here...the expanse of this structure is eye-catching~
Thanks everyone.
Mexipickle: this was handheld, and while I did run it through Neat Image it was surprisingly clean in the first place.
Adriana: the tones, in this case, were achieved by adding a Hue/Saturation adjustment layer to desaturate the image then a Curves adjustment to boost the midtones in the green channel (a bit), the same for the red channel (but about twice as much as for the green channel), and a decrease in the midtones for the blue channel (approximately equal to the amount the red channel was boosted).
Sharla: I haven't tried printing this one, but the full-res' screen version did look much better. This shot is all about the detail, and not enough of that comes across at this size.