I don't imagine that too many people will be surprised to hear that I'm happier with this shot than I was with yesterday's. It was taken earlier this evening as our two youngest were playing with our living-room curtains. And normally, sitting on the window-sill playing and with the curtains isn't something they'd be applauded for, but in this instance I let them be. Well, for five minutes or so ;-)
Update: Normally, I'm quite happy with the way I can present images on chromasia, particularly as I have the four themes to play with, but on this occasion things didn't look quite right. After thinking about it for a while I realised that the 6px border that I put around my images just didn't work for this shot so I've done another version – same image, but only a one pixel border. I think, for some reason, that the image looks a lot 'brighter' and more delicate as a consequence, but do let me know what you think:
Update #2: I've finally worked out how to override the default CSS (using the Keywords field to drag an extra bit of CSS into the head tag of an individual entry) so have set this entry to have a default border of 1px.
Oh, and in my opinion this one looks best with the white theme.
capture date camera lens focal length aperture shutter speed shooting mode exposure bias metering mode ISO flash image quality RAW converter cropped?
5.17pm on 10/3/05
Canon 20D
EF 70-200 f/4L USM
87mm (139mm equiv.)
f/4.0
1/80
manual
-2/3 FEC
evaluative
400
580EX
RAW
C1 Pro
minor
comment by VPra at 09:01 PM (GMT) on 10 March, 2005
Too bright.
comment bydjn1 at 09:07 PM (GMT) on 10 March, 2005
... is not ;-)
comment bybtezra at 09:18 PM (GMT) on 10 March, 2005
~a high key look but not overexposed...was this the result of the -2.4 exposure bias and a few edits in PShop?~
comment bydjn1 at 09:27 PM (GMT) on 10 March, 2005
Actually, I've just lightened this a bit more, not because of anything Vpra said, but because when I looked at it after it was posted I decided that I'd prefer a slightly more high-key look.
Btezra: I find that the 580EX will sometimes overexpose unless you dial in some compensation beforehand. As for PShop: I prefer to control this sort of shot after the event, particularly in this sort of circumstance. She was sitting against the window and if I'd not altered the exposure some of the curtains would have blown out. I know that I've since blown them out – almost – but I much prefer being able to determine this myself, mostly because digital blow out isn't particularly pretty. Film images degrade gracefully at extremes of exposure, CMOS sensors don't: banding because of under-exposure and blown out digital highlights are just plain ugly.
comment byShad at 10:04 PM (GMT) on 10 March, 2005
I would get mad if my kid played with the curtain too. But I'd get over it.
Great shot, the blow out effect works. I like the mischievousness. "I know I'm up to no good, but it's so fun!"
comment byJason Wall at 10:08 PM (GMT) on 10 March, 2005
I like how her whole smile is contained in her eye. It shows how much of a smile isn't about how you form your lips.
comment byseriocomic at 10:13 PM (GMT) on 10 March, 2005
This would have made a great shot (if not a ribbon winner) for DPChallenge's 'light on white'.
comment by Maxine at 10:35 PM (GMT) on 10 March, 2005
It reminds me a dream scene stituation....memory of childhood, recollection of something I lived but just know because it was said so. Superb. Love the colour, light, composition. Thanks for that.
comment byJeff Galak at 11:00 PM (GMT) on 10 March, 2005
This is simply breathtaking.
comment byAlex at 11:15 PM (GMT) on 10 March, 2005
i feel like an outsider here.. but i find this a tad disturbing. i think i've seen too many horror movies where people get suffocated or die underneath their shower curtains :-/ anyone else see where i'm coming from?!
comment byPete T. at 11:21 PM (GMT) on 10 March, 2005
I like the lack of contrast. At first I didn’t see the image – it was like a delayed realization that there was a child behind the curtain. Very nice.
comment byFellow Eskimo at 11:40 PM (GMT) on 10 March, 2005
Yes, the boarder does make a difference, and the white skin makes the picture popout more. It looked really overexposed at first, but the whiteness goes good with the curtains. Very cute that you cake barely make out a face, but you know there is one underthere, and evidently smiling. Sweet.
Wow. This is precious! It's beautiful! It belongs on the cover of some cherished 'child memories' book. I think it's fantastic. so pure and so cute!
comment byAlex P. at 12:25 AM (GMT) on 11 March, 2005
Just to let you know, it looks like your css trick didn't work quite right. When I go directly to your main page, everything works out fine, but when i go to the (perma?) link that your RSS feed gives me: http://www.chromasia.com/iblog/archives/0503102051_clean.php I get a php error in the top of the page in the header. Just wanted to let you know. Beautiful photos though, i've just recently discovered your blog and I like it very much!
comment bysylvainman at 12:29 AM (GMT) on 11 March, 2005
Light is beautiful, everything is well made, but i don't like it at all. It looks like wedding pictures shot by bad photographers.
Sorry...
comment bydjn1 at 12:47 AM (GMT) on 11 March, 2005
Jason: yes, I hadn't thought of that.
Alex: yes, you've watched too many horror films ;-)
Alex P.: thanks for the pointer. I'm using PHP to pull in a snippet of CSS and used relative addressing: which worked fine for the index page but not for the individual archive page. I've fixed it now.
sylvainman: ok, how about I describe this as a fun kids shot taken in the style of a crappy wedding photographer? ;-) Seriously, I can see what you mean – if this was a wedding photograph it would be a cliché – but I don't see this shot that way.
comment byriff at 01:10 AM (GMT) on 11 March, 2005
Dreamy.. adorable. Hallmarkish. I'd definitely put this up on my wall somewhere, if it was my work.
comment byAdriana at 01:10 AM (GMT) on 11 March, 2005
So sweet :)
comment bypaul at 01:35 AM (GMT) on 11 March, 2005
excellent image, I view all yours with black as default, but agree the white looks better.
comment byScott at 02:05 AM (GMT) on 11 March, 2005
Great image. I can't understand how anyone would see this as "bad wedding photography." Context is everything. In the context of child photography, this is 98th percentile work. Beautiful stuff.
comment by Chris at 02:23 AM (GMT) on 11 March, 2005
I think the brightness is great. The blown out whites give a nice angelic look.
Your photographs truly inspire me.
comment by jeanee at 04:08 AM (GMT) on 11 March, 2005
I've looked at many of your pictures -I was just curious what kind of camera you are using. You seem to be doing an excellent job, oh, and do you develop your own pictures?? I'm sorry, I've just been really getting into photography lately! Thanks, you can email me at russiandarko@hotmail.com !! Keep up the photos! They are very creative.
-J
comment byAlex at 08:53 AM (GMT) on 11 March, 2005
jeanne.. if you look next to 'camera' on the comments pages you'll see 'canon 20D' or whatever he chose to use at the time. also, if you look up 'lazy' in the dictionary..
comment byLyle at 09:01 AM (GMT) on 11 March, 2005
I think that's lovely - the depth of field where you can focus on either the curtain or the child's face, and the detail in both I think is stunning.
As for colour-schemes, I have to say I prefer it with the Dark or Black schemes - the White (for me) makes the entire image too bright, and loses the detail/focus on the proper areas.
comment bySeat83 at 10:18 AM (GMT) on 11 March, 2005
Wonderful! I don't think it's overexposed, gives it a angelical bright!!!!!!!
comment bymiklos at 12:25 PM (GMT) on 11 March, 2005
lol.. some of the comments up there crack me up..
but anyway, onto my point:
comment by VPra at 09:01 PM on 10 March, 2005
Too bright.
comment by djn1 at 09:07 PM on 10 March, 2005
… is not ;-)
... is too. Waaaay too bright :) I would've liked to see more contrast in the hand instead of being washed out like so.
Cool idea for the shot though. Maybe next time.
comment byBeth at 07:14 PM (GMT) on 11 March, 2005
I like the photo a lot - although, my monitor is calibrated - I'm sure some people are seeing on overly bright image due to their gamma settings. It's also a matter of taste - I think it's beautiful and unique.
comment by VPra at 07:27 PM (GMT) on 11 March, 2005
"...is not"..?
comment bymiklos at 07:39 PM (GMT) on 11 March, 2005
My monitor is calibrated.
comment bydjn1 at 08:19 PM (GMT) on 11 March, 2005
Thanks everyone.
VPra: "Too bright", "... is not" was a two word response to your two word point. You think it's too bright, I don't ;-) Seriously though, as Beth points out, I do think this is a matter of taste.
miklos: same goes for you ;-)
comment bymyla at 09:51 AM (GMT) on 12 March, 2005
So sweet -- I love this. :) {please tell Libby I said that she's got great taste in curtains!}
comment by manou at 07:27 PM (GMT) on 12 March, 2005
I don't imagine that too many people will be surprised to hear that I'm happier with this shot than I was with yesterday's. It was taken earlier this evening as our two youngest were playing with our living-room curtains. And normally, sitting on the window-sill playing and with the curtains isn't something they'd be applauded for, but in this instance I let them be. Well, for five minutes or so ;-)
Update: Normally, I'm quite happy with the way I can present images on chromasia, particularly as I have the four themes to play with, but on this occasion things didn't look quite right. After thinking about it for a while I realised that the 6px border that I put around my images just didn't work for this shot so I've done another version – same image, but only a one pixel border. I think, for some reason, that the image looks a lot 'brighter' and more delicate as a consequence, but do let me know what you think:
.../archives/dont_play_with_the_curtains.php
Update #2: I've finally worked out how to override the default CSS (using the Keywords field to drag an extra bit of CSS into the head tag of an individual entry) so have set this entry to have a default border of 1px.
Oh, and in my opinion this one looks best with the white theme.
camera
lens
focal length
aperture
shutter speed
shooting mode
exposure bias
metering mode
ISO
flash
image quality
RAW converter
cropped?
Canon 20D
EF 70-200 f/4L USM
87mm (139mm equiv.)
f/4.0
1/80
manual
-2/3 FEC
evaluative
400
580EX
RAW
C1 Pro
minor
Too bright.
... is not ;-)
~a high key look but not overexposed...was this the result of the -2.4 exposure bias and a few edits in PShop?~
Actually, I've just lightened this a bit more, not because of anything Vpra said, but because when I looked at it after it was posted I decided that I'd prefer a slightly more high-key look.
Btezra: I find that the 580EX will sometimes overexpose unless you dial in some compensation beforehand. As for PShop: I prefer to control this sort of shot after the event, particularly in this sort of circumstance. She was sitting against the window and if I'd not altered the exposure some of the curtains would have blown out. I know that I've since blown them out – almost – but I much prefer being able to determine this myself, mostly because digital blow out isn't particularly pretty. Film images degrade gracefully at extremes of exposure, CMOS sensors don't: banding because of under-exposure and blown out digital highlights are just plain ugly.
I would get mad if my kid played with the curtain too. But I'd get over it.
Great shot, the blow out effect works. I like the mischievousness. "I know I'm up to no good, but it's so fun!"
I like how her whole smile is contained in her eye. It shows how much of a smile isn't about how you form your lips.
This would have made a great shot (if not a ribbon winner) for DPChallenge's 'light on white'.
It reminds me a dream scene stituation....memory of childhood, recollection of something I lived but just know because it was said so. Superb. Love the colour, light, composition. Thanks for that.
This is simply breathtaking.
i feel like an outsider here.. but i find this a tad disturbing. i think i've seen too many horror movies where people get suffocated or die underneath their shower curtains :-/ anyone else see where i'm coming from?!
I like the lack of contrast. At first I didn’t see the image – it was like a delayed realization that there was a child behind the curtain. Very nice.
Yes, the boarder does make a difference, and the white skin makes the picture popout more. It looked really overexposed at first, but the whiteness goes good with the curtains. Very cute that you cake barely make out a face, but you know there is one underthere, and evidently smiling. Sweet.
Wow. This is precious! It's beautiful! It belongs on the cover of some cherished 'child memories' book. I think it's fantastic. so pure and so cute!
Just to let you know, it looks like your css trick didn't work quite right. When I go directly to your main page, everything works out fine, but when i go to the (perma?) link that your RSS feed gives me: http://www.chromasia.com/iblog/archives/0503102051_clean.php I get a php error in the top of the page in the header. Just wanted to let you know. Beautiful photos though, i've just recently discovered your blog and I like it very much!
Light is beautiful, everything is well made, but i don't like it at all. It looks like wedding pictures shot by bad photographers.
Sorry...
Jason: yes, I hadn't thought of that.
Alex: yes, you've watched too many horror films ;-)
Alex P.: thanks for the pointer. I'm using PHP to pull in a snippet of CSS and used relative addressing: which worked fine for the index page but not for the individual archive page. I've fixed it now.
sylvainman: ok, how about I describe this as a fun kids shot taken in the style of a crappy wedding photographer? ;-) Seriously, I can see what you mean – if this was a wedding photograph it would be a cliché – but I don't see this shot that way.
Dreamy.. adorable. Hallmarkish. I'd definitely put this up on my wall somewhere, if it was my work.
So sweet :)
excellent image, I view all yours with black as default, but agree the white looks better.
Great image. I can't understand how anyone would see this as "bad wedding photography." Context is everything. In the context of child photography, this is 98th percentile work. Beautiful stuff.
I think the brightness is great. The blown out whites give a nice angelic look.
Your photographs truly inspire me.
I've looked at many of your pictures -I was just curious what kind of camera you are using. You seem to be doing an excellent job, oh, and do you develop your own pictures?? I'm sorry, I've just been really getting into photography lately! Thanks, you can email me at russiandarko@hotmail.com !! Keep up the photos! They are very creative.
-J
jeanne.. if you look next to 'camera' on the comments pages you'll see 'canon 20D' or whatever he chose to use at the time. also, if you look up 'lazy' in the dictionary..
I think that's lovely - the depth of field where you can focus on either the curtain or the child's face, and the detail in both I think is stunning.
As for colour-schemes, I have to say I prefer it with the Dark or Black schemes - the White (for me) makes the entire image too bright, and loses the detail/focus on the proper areas.
Wonderful! I don't think it's overexposed, gives it a angelical bright!!!!!!!
lol.. some of the comments up there crack me up..
but anyway, onto my point:
comment by VPra at 09:01 PM on 10 March, 2005
Too bright.
comment by djn1 at 09:07 PM on 10 March, 2005
… is not ;-)
... is too. Waaaay too bright :) I would've liked to see more contrast in the hand instead of being washed out like so.
Cool idea for the shot though. Maybe next time.
I like the photo a lot - although, my monitor is calibrated - I'm sure some people are seeing on overly bright image due to their gamma settings. It's also a matter of taste - I think it's beautiful and unique.
"...is not"..?
My monitor is calibrated.
Thanks everyone.
VPra: "Too bright", "... is not" was a two word response to your two word point. You think it's too bright, I don't ;-) Seriously though, as Beth points out, I do think this is a matter of taste.
miklos: same goes for you ;-)
So sweet -- I love this. :) {please tell Libby I said that she's got great taste in curtains!}
Jolie :))))))))))