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In many ways I prefer this one to yesterday's, but I'd be interested to hear what you think.

And for those of you following the kitchen saga: the plumbing is finished (insofar as the hot and cold feeds are done), and the electrics and false wall should be mostly finished by tomorrow. At which point I'll take a breather for a day or so before getting on with laying the flooring, assembling the cupboards, plumbing in the sink, finishing the electrics, fitting the worktops and splashbacks and decorating :-/

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comment by jim at 10:19 PM (GMT) on 7 April, 2005

I prefer this one to yesterdays as well. It is a lot more atmospheric.

You've certainly capture two very depressed looking people. Or then again, maybe that's what travelling on the british train network does to people.

Excellent shot though - good luck with all that work you've still got to do.

comment by Jay at 10:36 PM (GMT) on 7 April, 2005

This shot has so much mood in it.
It really conveys a message, the other one was.... well... kind of everyday'ish.

comment by odilia at 10:49 PM (GMT) on 7 April, 2005

i really like this one..

comment by chris at 10:50 PM (GMT) on 7 April, 2005

excellent shot. And the sepia tone does wonders. I can't imaging the lurid shades of Merseyrail seats would have helped!

and good luck with the kitchen!

comment by chris at 11:22 PM (GMT) on 7 April, 2005

also...

I've just noticed that using the "black theme" seems to bring me into the shot. In comparison the "white" feels more like looking in, through a window.

anybody else?

comment by Maxine at 11:24 PM (GMT) on 7 April, 2005

This one for sure! Not even going to ask you how can you be always at the right place, with the right camera and convey the moment in such wonderful pic. Congratulations and good luck with your home work :)

comment by s.hu at 11:28 PM (GMT) on 7 April, 2005

i definately prefer this over yesterday's... i love the mood. thanks for sharing your art with the world, God bless.

comment by Fellow Eskimo at 11:30 PM (GMT) on 7 April, 2005

I prefer this one, its probably the toning...and the position of the person. The black theme does well with this one, gives it more of a mood. Plus the capture of the other person looks cool. :)

comment by Adrian at 12:19 AM (GMT) on 8 April, 2005

This one inspires a lot. Congrats!

comment by paul at 01:28 AM (GMT) on 8 April, 2005

hell dave your on a mission at home!! Must not let the missus read how fast your doing it.....I would get in trouble :P

Great shot this, I prefer this one also, I like the fact that the guy in the reflection seems to be at least relaxed in his seat, contrasting with the other chappie who looks to have his head in his hands or maybe trying to get a 5 minute snooze.

comment by daniela at 02:09 AM (GMT) on 8 April, 2005

i like very much this shot. the sepia looks great and i love shots in train. i don't know how to say :el reflejo del other man is beautiful, y la atmosfera de cansancio de la persona que está inclinada es casi magica. me gusta mucho ciertamente.
besos

comment by kate at 02:14 AM (GMT) on 8 April, 2005

great eye, david! all your train shots have been spot on.

may i ask, when you see a moment like this, what's your method?
i picture myself fumbling with everything, making a lot of noise, etc. does this ever happen to you? how do you avoid it?

was the fact that both of them appear to be sleeping in your favor here timing wise?

also, do you wait for the train to make a stop before shooting? if not, what technique do you use to avoid blur from vibration.

sorry, probably pretty dumb questions, but i ride the "el" (our elevated trains) a lot! ;))

comment by David at 04:02 AM (GMT) on 8 April, 2005

Great image - Sepia works well for it.
It's much more centered than yesterday's, which had a lot of empty space in the middle of the frame.
It is more mysterious - yesterday the man on the right had an interesting expression, but other than him it was a fairly bland shot.
Also, you've got great highlights and shadows to fill out the frame.

comment by jeff, the rhino at 05:07 AM (GMT) on 8 April, 2005

Much more magnetic than yesterday's... i'm drawn into it.

comment by hungaro at 05:10 AM (GMT) on 8 April, 2005

I much prefer yesterday's shot
I have a hread time figuring out what I am looking at

comment by Greg Wilker at 07:15 AM (GMT) on 8 April, 2005

I always find your sepia pictures to be entertaining with a calm and easy going tone to them.

comment by pryce at 08:29 AM (GMT) on 8 April, 2005

This one for sure. Most of the reasons have been mentioned above; to me, this one tells a deeper story than yesterdays. You sure have an admirable sense for motif and mood.

comment by fraxinus at 09:41 AM (GMT) on 8 April, 2005

This has the edge over yesterday's in my view, as it evokes all kinds of mysterious feelings of duality, schizophrenia and astral projection - all this on a train to Bolton, wow!
The monochrome treatment works well. Oh, and I like the neat reference to plumbing in the inclusion of the pipe motifs...:-)

comment by Andy (SensorChip) at 10:48 AM (GMT) on 8 April, 2005

I also prefer this one. You do this soft toning very well and a great image.

comment by Andy at 02:54 PM (GMT) on 8 April, 2005

I like how you can see the reflection of the dude there. Nice job man

comment by picturegrl at 03:19 PM (GMT) on 8 April, 2005

i like the mood this one conveys, and the toning is superb, as always. I also like the pipe placement directly through the center of the picture, adding to the duality. Very nice.

comment by frisky? at 04:19 PM (GMT) on 8 April, 2005

nice one dave, I like the reflection.

comment by Jason Wall at 05:05 PM (GMT) on 8 April, 2005

Qualitatively, the two photos are close. They're different though, and depending on your mood, you're likely to like one over the other. I like this one more, but then again, I feel like that half shown figure in the reflection and find shared feelings comforting. The absence of color is also relaxing; it doesn't force any emotion I would rather not try and feel.

comment by djn1 at 06:03 PM (GMT) on 8 April, 2005

Thanks everyone.

paul: the guy with his head in his hands looked a bit the worse for drink, so I think he may have been trying to sleep it off.

kate: this was one of about 10 shots. The guy with his head in his hands was oblivious to what I was doing and the reflected person probably assumed she wasn't in the shot, so this one was relatively straightforward. As for when the shot was taken: I think the train was moving but can't be sure.

fraxinus: I really wish the pipe motif had been intentional ;-)

comment by Levi Buzolic at 07:14 PM (GMT) on 8 April, 2005

I really like this one has a much more moody and dark feel to it. Great work as always mate.

comment by Duncan at 10:47 AM (GMT) on 10 April, 2005

Have you photoshopped this? Because I'm staring at the reflection again the divider and I can see that there is a distinct gap between it and the pole, yet the reflection carries over the gap and onto half of the pole. Moreso, wouldn't you expect that the reflection again the pole would be convex around it? I don't meant to sound like I don't like the photo, but it's something that leapt at me pretty immediately. If I'm wrong, I'll happily stand corrected. I've been really enjoying your train shots lately.

comment by djn1 at 10:53 AM (GMT) on 10 April, 2005

Duncan: I can see what you mean but you're assuming that the reflection is reflected in the wall immediately behind it when, in fact, it's actually a reflection in an internal window immediately in front of the lens; i.e. on the opposite side of the carriage. That's why it crosses the gap.