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This shot started out as an attempt to take a fun, wide-angle shot of our youngest, but seems to have turned into a bit of a Hammer House of Horror the-dolls-are-alive type shot or, as my wife put it, "this looks like some sort of spooky Victorian ghost picture". Anyway, intentions aside (and not even mentioning that it looks as though her head has been stuck onto an entirely different photograph, which it hasn't), I thought I'd put it up.

One thing I did learn with this shot: frequently, when I shoot portraits, I convert them to black and white using the channel mixer to extract the red channel – this lightens skin tones and can give quite an ethereal effect. This time though I used it to extract the blue channel and it's made her eyes look very striking. She has quite pale blue eyes and this conversion technique has really highlighted them in a way that I didn't anticipate. I guess, in retrospect, that the outcome is obvious, but it isn't something I'd thought to try previously.

As always, comments please ...

8.10pm on 25/4/05

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comment by Jay at 08:25 PM (GMT) on 26 April, 2005

I love the contrast of the white dress and the dark black mud.
The patterns in the mud are quite striking as well.

comment by mark at 08:27 PM (GMT) on 26 April, 2005

what an awesome shot......the contrast between the child and the sand is dramatically striking!

comment by VPra at 08:37 PM (GMT) on 26 April, 2005

Not that this is a huge problem but if you edited out the 2 "distracting" white pieces to the right of the picture, i think it would look a lot more cleaner. It wouldn't be very hard to do, but very cute photo

comment by Alec Long [Shutter And Pupil] at 08:42 PM (GMT) on 26 April, 2005

Dave, I'm not clear on what you mean by using the channel mixer to "extract the red channel." Everytime I open the Channel Mixer and try that, I get a green image. Here are the steps I'm trying to do: Image>Adjustments>Channel Mixer. Then I'm presented with three sliders (Red, Green, Blue) and a pulldown bar (Red, Green, Blue), and finally a click button for Monochrome and a slider for Constant.

But any combination of those sliders doesn't result in anything usable. What am I missing?

Frankly, Fred Miranda's BW Workflow Pro is my favorite (and admittedly easier to use) plugin for black & white conversions.

I agree--nice eyes. I like the slightly macabre feeling of this one, too.

comment by owen at 08:48 PM (GMT) on 26 April, 2005

awesome portrait - your daughter looks tiny all the way down there!

Alec, I think you need to select the monochrome checkbox, then play around with the sliders roughly keeping the sum total somewhere near 100%.

comment by Anand Sankaran at 08:49 PM (GMT) on 26 April, 2005

Very nice, like the contrast here. The two small white things to the right are a bit distracting.

comment by maya at 08:50 PM (GMT) on 26 April, 2005

wow. amaizing contrast between the child and the huge field of..mud.
great work, as always.

comment by Adriana at 09:01 PM (GMT) on 26 April, 2005

Definitely she really looks like a doll. ( a spoky one), We don't see her that much, so now I wonder how she would look like in some other position or prespective. Love the petterns in the mud. .

comment by P at 09:07 PM (GMT) on 26 April, 2005

something about the background makes her look tiny to me! and i'm right there with you seeing the Hammer film comparison -- the overall effect is spooky. i'm going to have to try using the channel mixer before converting to b/w. i really like your results here!

comment by Robyn P. at 09:09 PM (GMT) on 26 April, 2005

I really like your use of space... Personally I've always liked this type of shot of children... I absolutely love the way her eyes turned out - so striking

comment by Diana at 09:12 PM (GMT) on 26 April, 2005

love the contrast... this shot is wonderful!

comment by Brad at 09:15 PM (GMT) on 26 April, 2005

Nice perspective! I can't wait to get home for the summer and use the beach to capture shots similar to this.

comment by Lee at 09:24 PM (GMT) on 26 April, 2005

I like the perspective of this shot and how you made her eyes stand out. I love the fact that every time you learn something new you share it with us! Thank you!!

comment by djn1 at 09:27 PM (GMT) on 26 April, 2005

VPra: I did think about cloning out the white pieces – one is a broken shell and the other is a stone – but, given that the image ended up being a bit "edgier" than I intended I decided that I quite liked their presence.

Alec: open the channel mixer, select the channel you want to extract from the "Output Channel:" drop-down, then click the "Monochrome" button (bottom left). This will convert the image to black and white based on the channel you select.

Adriana: I'll try and take some more shots of her over the next few weeks.

comment by paul at 09:51 PM (GMT) on 26 April, 2005

Good choice with the channel mixer, her eyes hold your gaze.

comment by darragh at 09:51 PM (GMT) on 26 April, 2005

the patterned sand creates a great background. nice tone and angle too.

comment by nogger at 10:00 PM (GMT) on 26 April, 2005

I dunno about Hammer Horror. Does look a bit Victorian ghost though, I suppose. Nice technique with the B&W.

And I hope her toes didn't get too cold.

comment by Fellow Eskimo at 10:36 PM (GMT) on 26 April, 2005

Very nice, though, it does look kinda creepy. Maybe its just the prospective? She looks really short. I do like how the eyes are nice and clear, and how the sand gives more texture, its nice. :)

comment by Maxine at 10:38 PM (GMT) on 26 April, 2005

oh gosh....what a pic! LIke to think as if the mud was chocolate .Love the contrast of colour, texture and ....do your wife and you are planning to keep the formula of how to make such gorgeous children a family secret? Guess so!
:) Superb Dave. Congratulations...

comment by Kayleigh at 11:10 PM (GMT) on 26 April, 2005

gorgeous!

comment by Smallest Photo at 11:15 PM (GMT) on 26 April, 2005

Wow - the texture is incredible!

comment by Andreas at 11:21 PM (GMT) on 26 April, 2005

Yeah, but damn that's a nice ghost!
Wonderfull picture.. the best one in a while.. really like it...
nice light and great texture and a great different portrait..
.. she's still adorable though!

comment by kate at 11:31 PM (GMT) on 26 April, 2005

superb!

comment by bmoll at 11:32 PM (GMT) on 26 April, 2005

Something that makes her pretty spooky or 'dollish' are these.. bracelets (?) on her wrist. I hope they're bracelets :)
Well done.

comment by djn1 at 11:39 PM (GMT) on 26 April, 2005

nogger: it was cold and rainy again today, but yesterday, when this was taken, it was much warmer.

Maxine: luck ;-)

bmoll: lol, those are her wrists. She's still quite a baby in a lot of respects, including her chubby wrists.

comment by tobias at 11:40 PM (GMT) on 26 April, 2005

The mysteries of Dave, So that is how you extract the desired channel. I also use the channel mixer that is to the right on CS, this allows you to put two of the three colours in your little bin, this effectively, chooses the colour channel you wish to manipulate.

I am not sure about this image. The sand is great but your daughter looks a little bit lost in it, dwarfed by the scene. The eye detail may have more impact were she a little closer to the camera?

I like it but also perhaprs a more high contrast (darker) dress would have been better in black and white. Hmmmm, still does have something as most of your images do...

comment by stephen at 12:08 AM (GMT) on 27 April, 2005

what is your method of colorizing your images to get that sepia tone?

comment by djn1 at 12:15 AM (GMT) on 27 April, 2005

stephen: I normally use the Curves tool. It's easier to play around with than describe but basically you need to adjust the midtones for three colour channels: bump the green channel up a bit, bump the red channel up by about twice that amount, and then take the blue channel down about as much as you put the red channel up. Does that make sense?

comment by Fred at 12:25 AM (GMT) on 27 April, 2005

A variation on Dave's channel mixer method is to click on the Channels palette (it looks like the Layers palette). You can then click on Red, Green or Blue to see what each channel looks like in B&W. Once you've selected the one you want, change the mode to grayscale. It's just a variation that may work for you.

comment by Weston Boyd at 12:44 AM (GMT) on 27 April, 2005

Excellent. Glad I added you to my favorites :)

comment by miles at 01:09 AM (GMT) on 27 April, 2005

Great capture Dave, the processing is outstanding imho.

comment by Paul at 01:37 AM (GMT) on 27 April, 2005

This is Great Photograph..
Love how the dark texture contrasts with the girl..

Paul

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comment by Juice at 01:55 AM (GMT) on 27 April, 2005

Excellent angle.

For me, the composition leads you first to her eyes and down to her toes in the mushy sand. I really like when a shot directs you and kind of tells you how you're supposed to look at it.

comment by joh at 02:40 AM (GMT) on 27 April, 2005

Much as I'd like to credit the photographer, the gaze of that girl makes the photo. Okay, the photo's not half bad either.... Hehehe.

comment by Bruce at 02:46 AM (GMT) on 27 April, 2005

Love the composition and the repetitive pattern. However, it is the eyes that I keep coming back to. Just stunning.

comment by Alec Long [Shutter And Pupil] at 02:53 AM (GMT) on 27 April, 2005

Thanks for explaining that, Dave. I got it.

Fred: That's my preferred method when doing it by hand. For now, though, I'll use the Miranda plugin. :)

comment by Pramesh at 02:58 AM (GMT) on 27 April, 2005

Hi David. Nice shot. Wonderful contrast. I just wanted to ask you if you could outline in detail how you use the channel mixer when you're converting colour images to b/w?

comment by genedavinci at 04:00 AM (GMT) on 27 April, 2005

nice sephia.... bravo~

comment by Tim at 04:04 AM (GMT) on 27 April, 2005

I really like this photo, and I think your wife nailed the description. The texture in the mud is just spectacular. I'm going to have to try what you're describing up above with some of my shots.

comment by hungaro at 04:23 AM (GMT) on 27 April, 2005

this one is great
very emotive
wondeful face
wonderful composition
wonderful tone

comment by TJ at 06:06 AM (GMT) on 27 April, 2005

Excellent Shot! Very Cute!!
"I convert them to black and white using the channel mixer to extract the red channel..."
Does this mean that the grayscale image was taken just from the red channel ALONE? My trials had always resulted in making the shot bad. I quite dont understand this right?

-TJ

comment by John Washington at 07:02 AM (GMT) on 27 April, 2005

This is a brill picture Dave. Contrast at work here.

I am kicking myself now but the other day I stumbled across a female photographer who shoots children in a way that can be described as alien

I can't remember her name at the moment but when I do I think you should have a look.

John

comment by Matt at 07:15 AM (GMT) on 27 April, 2005

The line formations on the ground look great. Great capture.

comment by Kay at 07:55 AM (GMT) on 27 April, 2005

Really lovely. For me the stone and shell are important to the overall contrast between 'other wordly' and 'down to earth', and add to the composition and character, and make it less bland than it might otherwise have been. Still it would have been lovely though.

comment by Gill at 10:52 AM (GMT) on 27 April, 2005

Yup, I'm with L on this one! ROFL
Interesting though :)

comment by steve at 12:52 PM (GMT) on 27 April, 2005

pretty scary! I see what you mean now!

comment by ian at 02:33 PM (GMT) on 27 April, 2005

excellent, david. i love it.

comment by vivien at 03:05 PM (GMT) on 27 April, 2005

this looks so great, the is my favorite photo for now. but i wont use it as a wallpaper, because the girl scares me a little. i dont know, she is so cute, bt she looks like somebody from a scary movie. this shouldnt be an insult.

comment by andy at 04:10 PM (GMT) on 27 April, 2005

I'm finding myself really staring and taking this picture in. There's something very captivating about it. I don't see anything haunting about it. I think it's a beautiful photo which captures the innocence and wonder of your daughter. As the father of a 15-month old girl, I can really appreciate this type of photo.

I really like how your all of your monochromes turn out. I'm trying to find a nice way to get the effect without a channel mixer (using PS Elements 3).

comment by J.P. at 05:50 PM (GMT) on 27 April, 2005

Wow! Cooool contrast.

comment by Joe[y] at 06:10 PM (GMT) on 27 April, 2005

"What you lookin' at?"

comment by Jim at 06:42 PM (GMT) on 27 April, 2005

That's a great portrait. The composition, the expression, one of the best I've seen. Well done!

comment by btezra at 07:46 PM (GMT) on 27 April, 2005

~she's beautiful~

comment by djn1 at 07:55 PM (GMT) on 27 April, 2005

Thanks everyone, and now I'm really glad that I put this one up.

comment by Beth at 09:46 PM (GMT) on 27 April, 2005

Eerie and beautiful... great texture and composition - got to love the channel mixer.... I really think it would be super helpful if you always mentioned however briefly what goes into the processing of your spectuclar images. I bought both the books you recommeded and continually practice but nothing ever comes close to your amazing shots. So please share! :)

comment by m at 10:08 PM (GMT) on 27 April, 2005

I see the scary movie thing but I'm afraid to say this...........
The first thing I saw was - she looks just like her dad!
The more I look the more I see it.

comment by jcyrhs at 06:34 AM (GMT) on 28 April, 2005

It's beautifully scary to post something like that of your daughter.

*clap clap clap* You're the man. I love the way you daughter stands out from the pattern of mud.

comment by Jesse Watkins at 07:14 PM (GMT) on 28 April, 2005

I do like this picture--before I opened the comments window, I really thought it looked amazing (the comments settled my thoughts down). Those blue eyes work well to focus the picture. I wonder what a picture would look like with a tight composition on her head, filling the right/middle side of the shot while having a muddy background.

comment by Michael at 09:02 PM (GMT) on 28 April, 2005

very very beautiful picture! i love it!

comment by Doug at 10:45 PM (GMT) on 30 April, 2005

The mud/sand resembles plasticine/clay, but she seems/is so human (ie. see the mud on the toes). I think this contrast is more revealing than any contrast of colors - this is what makes it so much more -- ie. mult-levelled characteristics, with blending that can't be manufactured. Very nice.

comment by Gord Is Dead at 03:56 PM (GMT) on 1 May, 2005

Great. Really.

comment by Reza at 09:33 AM (GMT) on 4 May, 2005

Great picture, Great background.

comment by Erica at 04:25 AM (GMT) on 5 July, 2005

Your little girl has CAPTIVATING eyes.

She is an old soul most definitely :) and I bet she is very intelligent!